DiLuca's stupidity defense

limerickman

Moreni was hauled in by the police - and then confessed.

Sink?

I do recall with Camezind that as soon as the positive was announced - he admitted that he doped and promptly retired.
(credit where it's due - given the antics of other riders who try to deny/deny/deny despite being caught).

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morelike hypocrisy.

lucybears

Di Luca alla Tirreno, la soddisfazione dell'ACCPI
http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/main.php...erca_d&id=15509

helmutRoole2

I get that feeling too, especially with Landis. He reminds of a crack whore on a bender always wanting more. (Gimme, gimme, gimme, I need some more; gimme, gimme, gimme, don't ask what for -- BF.) It's not until the haze clears that he'll possibly see how greedy he's been. He's getting bad advice from someone. Or possibly no one. He's dug himself a deep hole and based on his actions (I'm thinking of the Lemond phone call) he wants to climb out but it seems like he thinks he's dug too deep. If you're in a hole, it doesn't matter how deep you've gotten yourself in, out is where you wanna be. I don't know if he's got the balls to do it. I'd have respect for him if he did.

Maybe if WADA continues to target the top dopers, the lower wrung won't feel as compelled to cheat. However, don't underestimate the recreational lure of these drugs. If testosterone and steroids are a rush, EPO and HGH stacked on top has got to be that much better. Look at Tyler Hamilton. Look how distorted his face has become. (The pics are on this site somewhere. There's more than a few, so it's not a bad angle.) That's likely from mass quantities of HGH. He looks like a clown, literally. How he can look at himself in the mirror and not think, "I'm a freak show," is beyond me. Maybe he just figures the damage is already done, and besides, "HGH is fun, effective, and non-detectable." He is a modern day Greek tragedy. Like Landis, he had plenty, but wanted more.

But back to the original thought: Landis and Hamilton got the blue print from Armstrong, but they got it a year or two too late. And when WADA came calling, they didn't have the funds accumulated, or maybe the good sense, to pay them off. For Flamilton, the timing was horribly, horribly bad. I think you can say plenty of bad things about WADA, but Landis, Hamilton and Herras rightfully are top-shelf trophies for that organization.

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hawkeye87

Sinkowitz initially denied it but it was only a week or two later and he admitted to recalling rubbing a steriod balm onto his arm during training. He said something to the effect of it being a stupid thing to do and apologized to the team for it.

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thoughtforfood

I have been clean and sober from other "recreational" substances for almost 17 years, and I have seen THOUSANDS of active drug addicts. Landis is acting in classic fashion as is/was Hamilton. They have justified it in their minds, and do not see that they have doped because everyone doped.

Some people when faced with their drug addiction (and contrary to what many may think, that is what doping is), redouble their efforts to deny their problem, some people reduce their use and think they are better now because they aren't doing as much, and others face the problem. There is a mix of these people in the peloton. Some never use in the first place.

I find the way in which Landis and Hamilton dealt with their respective positives very interesting and in a way funny, because when you have seen that reaction 1000 times, the truth is as apparent as a flashing red light. I have been there/done that and you can't kid a kidder.

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Crankyfeet

I think the psyche that produces drug cheats starts early on in a cyclists' life. We all pick up the bike as white-gowned cycling brides wanting to be responsible citizens and road users. But before long we're ploughing through stop signs, riding across pedestrian crossings, and through and around red traffic lights, all the while carping that we are just like any other vehicle on the road and deserve to be respected as such. We become cheating short-cut opportunists, sometimes more decadent in larger groups.

Cycling just eats away at our moral fiber, until eventually we are on the TdF podium wondering if Dr. Ferrari double checked that last blood transfusion properly...

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"[Calling him] 'dickcheese' is the insult of a master. Some people work in oil, some people work in clay. He [thoughtforfood] works in profanity. Open your mind and enjoy its beauty."

TheDarkLord

You hate those guys' guts?? Many of your posts are supportive of the UCI.

But yes, I agree with you. Their treatment of those riders who are willing to fess up and blow the whistle itself is enough to show the amount of corruption up there.

Crankyfeet

I'm supportive of the USA. Doesn't mean I love the current Bush administration.

But my previous posts are less about support for the UCI, and more about the perils of ASO taking over professional cycling. The UCI structure needs to change, as well as the bobble heads in charge IMHO.

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Originally posted by Frigo's Luggage...

"[Calling him] 'dickcheese' is the insult of a master. Some people work in oil, some people work in clay. He [thoughtforfood] works in profanity. Open your mind and enjoy its beauty."

Powerful Pete

Well Diluca is being allowed to ride the Tirreno-Adriatico.

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padawan

Crap. That probably means they don't have enough on him yet to make a case stick with any certainty.

I don't imagine we can be lucky enough to have them catch him again at Tirreno-Adriatico. It's not a main goal race for him so he won't be risking large discrepancies in his blood values.

I don't think Di Luca can be as unaware (or arogant?) as Tyler was when he competed at the 2004 Olympics knowing they now had a valid test for homlogous blood doping.

The one problem with press leaks, allegations and half-assed doping charges (i.e. 3 month suspension for invlovement in Oil for Drugs - what a joke) is that it just makes the dopers more careful.

Powerful Pete

I think we can state with some certainty that this will be an 'off' year for Danilo... he will crack on the first mountain stage in the Giro...

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thunder

his best friend/manager Will Geoghagan or whatever his name is, did a Faustian deal. I see Will as a nice guy, but saw the $$$ signs when Fraud won, and then saw himself as Bob Stapelton millionaire sports agent, steering the apotheosis of the dead hip aka Floyd.

money, it was the lure.

no excuse for the Paceliners, they oughta get a life.

thunder

you cant say you are unsupportive as faster than you said that, and faster than you can say "extraordinary rendition" you would be in a gulag out Wimmera DC.

Crankyfeet

Am I supposed to record this and play it backwards to get the meaning???...

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Originally posted by Frigo's Luggage...

"[Calling him] 'dickcheese' is the insult of a master. Some people work in oil, some people work in clay. He [thoughtforfood] works in profanity. Open your mind and enjoy its beauty."