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Old 05-03.-2008, 04:36 AM   #1
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"I have one tip... You believe for yourself you are a good rider... then you work hard... then you are a good rider"

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"I have one tip... You believe for yourself you are a good rider... then you work hard... then you are a good rider"

Gee thanks Andreas.


Hm, not even pretend advice? like a high cadence, weighing your food, training on Xmas day? Come on, throw us a bone here.
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If body language is anything, he did not seem very convinced of his advice as he was averting his gaze and trying not to laugh.
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Hm, not even pretend advice? like a high cadence, weighing your food, training on Xmas day? Come on, throw us a bone here.
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Funny how shifty all those Astana team members look - not a one can talk about 'hard work and sacrifice' with a straight face
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Kloden doesn't say much, but apparently Sinkewitz does. It seems that Sinkewitz told German police that Kloden did indeed receive a blood transfusion in Freiburg the evening after Ulrich was thrown out of the 2006 TdF. Link in German. Kessler was in it, too.
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Kloden doesn't say much, but apparently Sinkewitz does. It seems that Sinkewitz told German police that Kloden did indeed receive a blood transfusion in Freiburg the evening after Ulrich was thrown out of the 2006 TdF. Link in German. Kessler was in it, too.

And there goes one of the three riders over the last decade who have been consistently competitive at the TdF and not been popped for doping. Klodenn can join Armstrong, Ullrich, Mancebo, Beloki, Vino, Pantani, etc., etc. We are down to Evans and Leipheimer now.
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We are down to Evans and Leipheimer now.


I lack the faith when it comes to Leipheimer. Not after the second ITT in the 2007 TdF. Evans? If anything turns up about Evans, I'll probably sit down and cry. Evans is and has been for a while my last best hope for a clean(er) cycling. I know it's irrational, and it's hard to cheer on Evans when he's all over the road on a climb, but if this last illusion should be shattered, it's going to be a really sad day for me.
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I lack the faith when it comes to Leipheimer. Not after the second ITT in the 2007 TdF. Evans? If anything turns up about Evans, I'll probably sit down and cry. Evans is and has been for a while my last best hope for a clean(er) cycling. I know it's irrational, and it's hard to cheer on Evans when he's all over the road on a climb, but if this last illusion should be shattered, it's going to be a really sad day for me.

Obviously Leipheimer is doped to the eyeballs. Before joining Postal he was an average, not so successful domestic pro. Eighteen months later he placed fourth in the Vuelta. Bruyneel has some powerful dope.

Over the last fifteen years everyone who has placed in the TdF's top ten without the aid of a long successful break was juicing. Evans cannot be any different.
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I wonder if Eddie Merckx hypothetically came along and rode clean now at the age of 30, how he would fare?
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Over the last fifteen years everyone who has placed in the TdF's top ten without the aid of a long successful break was juicing. Evans cannot be any different.

Don't crush my hope yet. At least Evans looked properly exhausted after some of the stages last year. It might not mean much, but it felt right to me.
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Don't crush my hope yet. At least Evans looked properly exhausted after some of the stages last year. It might not mean much, but it felt right to me.
From the Bruyneel school, I see!
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I wonder if Eddie Merckx hypothetically came along and rode clean now at the age of 30, how he would fare?


Depends. With the cigarettes and no training from October -January, he would be middle of the pack. Otherwise, he would do well.
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Two questions:

Did Bruyneel really see this coming, or was he just hedging his bets with Kloden (i.e. treating him like a stepchild).

Second, if there is an investigatino formally launched against Kloden, how does this affect the ASO-UCI war?
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