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1:42:11 with an IF of 0.96 -- time to bump FTP setting?

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Old 03-03.-2008, 12:03 PM   #1
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Default 1:42:11 with an IF of 0.96 -- time to bump FTP setting?

I did a race today, 40 miles in 1:42:11, and my IF came out at 0.96. I haven't done any FTP testing for about a month -- time to bump the FTP? It was pretty variable, but it was a tough race.

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Old 03-03.-2008, 12:33 PM   #2
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Definitely....... time to retest.
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Old 03-03.-2008, 03:26 PM   #3
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Definitely....... time to retest.


Why would you say definitely - .96 is definitely not 1.00. I'd hold off a bit and see if you have any other evidence.
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Old 03-03.-2008, 03:42 PM   #4
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Why would you say definitely - .96 is definitely not 1.00. I'd hold off a bit and see if you have any other evidence.
I did bust out a new best for 5m power last week during my hill repeats. 4.3% improvement in three weeks (from 418W to 436W).
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Old 03-03.-2008, 03:43 PM   #5
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Why would you say definitely - .96 is definitely not 1.00. I'd hold off a bit and see if you have any other evidence.

I guess one could look for more evidence before retesting, but I don't see the harm in testing anyway since it's been about a month.

Just to clarify, I said it was definitely a cause to retest, not definitely a cause to raise FTP (which I would *not* recommend based on the info provided). FWIW, I tend to think that when a poster asks the forum if they should raise their FTP based on such and such, they really should be asking themselves if the ride warrants a retest.
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Old 03-03.-2008, 11:04 PM   #6
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Default Re: 1:42:11 with an IF of 0.96 -- time to bump FTP setting?

I did something like this on the KKR last Saturday a 6x20 at 95% FTP but my 3x20s have never averaged higher than 99%. Should I wait until my recently started maintenance L5s (3x4s) raise the ceiling for my 3x20s to over 100% and then do a HOP test?

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I guess one could look for more evidence before retesting, but I don't see the harm in testing anyway since it's been about a month.

Just to clarify, I said it was definitely a cause to retest, not definitely a cause to raise FTP (which I would *not* recommend based on the info provided). FWIW, I tend to think that when a poster asks the forum if they should raise their FTP based on such and such, they really should be asking themselves if the ride warrants a retest.
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I did something like this on the KKR last Saturday a 6x20 at 95% FTP but my 3x20s have never averaged higher than 99%. Should I wait until my recently started maintenance L5s (3x4s) raise the ceiling for my 3x20s to over 100% and then do a HOP test?
Anything that falls in the intensity-duration ballpark of a '5% drop' for a doubling of duration would be in the realm of what I consider 'normal' (ie, 30min at 105%, 1hr at 100%, 2hr at 95%, etc.) from about 15 minutes to ~4hrs. But again, if you think your FTP may have risen to the next step then there's no harm in testing it to be sure, using whatever method you typically use to test/set FTP.

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Default Re: 1:42:11 with an IF of 0.96 -- time to bump FTP setting?

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Anything that falls in the intensity-duration ballpark of a '5% drop' for a doubling of duration would be in the realm of what I consider 'normal' (ie, 30min at 105%, 1hr at 100%, 2hr at 95%, etc.) from about 15 minutes to ~4hrs. But again, if you think your FTP may have risen to the next step then there's no harm in testing it to be sure, using whatever method you typically use to test/set FTP.

"Training is testing. Testing is Training" -- A. Coggan.

I'll 2nd these comments but add that if you think/feel your FTP has risen, typically it has .
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Old 04-03.-2008, 12:15 AM   #9
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Thanks for the input it just seemed strange compared with last years 6x20 at 88% PB.

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I'll 2nd these comments but add that if you think/feel your FTP has risen, typically it has .
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Thanks everyone. I'll work in some testing in the next week.
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Default Re: 1:42:11 with an IF of 0.96 -- time to bump FTP setting?

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Just to clarify, I said it was definitely a cause to retest, not definitely a cause to raise FTP (which I would *not* recommend based on the info provided).
Thanks for the clarification.
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Old 04-03.-2008, 04:37 AM   #12
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Just to clarify, I said it was definitely a cause to retest, not definitely a cause to raise FTP (which I would *not* recommend based on the info provided).


Oops, misread what you wrote. I definitely agree with this statement.
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Oops, misread what you wrote. I definitely agree with this statement.

I was trying to be cute. It obviously backfired.
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Old 04-03.-2008, 02:34 PM   #14
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Default Re: 1:42:11 with an IF of 0.96 -- time to bump FTP setting?

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I was trying to be cute. It obviously backfired.


Nah...some of us are just too slow to pick up on such suddle (I don't even know how to spell subtle) humor.
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Old 04-03.-2008, 10:49 PM   #15
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Default Re: 1:42:11 with an IF of 0.96 -- time to bump FTP setting?

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Nah...some of us are just too slow to pick up on such suddle (I don't even know how to spell subtle) humor.
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