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Old 03-03.-2008, 01:00 PM   #16
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I like powermeters, I think they are definitely useful, but I don't like how they are so overrated.


And yes, I ORDER, COMMAND you all to listen to me. LOL, I'm just stating what I'm noticing what is happening.

Oh yeah, if you want to be a good racer, you also need to buy those thousand dollar deep profile carbon wheels. (this is a joke too, btw)
So basically your original post happened just because you woke up today and decided to be a shit disturber, huh?
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Old 04-03.-2008, 12:12 AM   #17
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I tend to agree that many confuse being completely anal about data as being a shortcut to improved performance. There's no substitute for good ol' honest training (as long as it's smart and effective training). No shortcuts. No magic bullets.

The problem is that smart and effective training is actually quite rarely applied and that's where power meters really shine. While PMs are not the only way to train with smarts, they sure make the task of applying smart and effective training easier (for you and/or your coach).

Is it necessary to have a PM to have fun riding? No of course not. But improving performance through smart training sure makes having fun easier.

And for some people, analysis IS fun . Almost as much fun as riding.

Alex makes excellent points and I would say in addition that the faster you get, the smarter you need to train in order to improve further. A powermeter simply helps one train smarter.
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Old 06-03.-2008, 10:39 AM   #18
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indeed there is no substitute for hard work but what is needed is hard work when and how it counts in order to maximise the time and effort efficiency of training. power meters simply maximise that efficiency, yes they come at a cost, but for many they are a truly smart purchase.

for those with a disliking of all things watts this is definately the wrong forum just as weightweenies is probably not for you if you're not really into the "per kilo" side of the equation!
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Old 15-03.-2008, 09:03 AM   #19
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Is there something wrong with me if I have fun looking at all my ride data, geeking out on the numbers and charts? It's bonus after the ride fun.
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Old 15-03.-2008, 09:11 AM   #20
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Is there something wrong with me if I have fun looking at all my ride data, geeking out on the numbers and charts? It's bonus after the ride fun.

Yes, there is something wrong with you. Now excuse me whilst I get back to a match analysis of my last 4 club ride files.
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Old 15-03.-2008, 10:05 AM   #21
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Power analys is fun, enterteining, rewarding and makes yourself to get to know you better. Thats is excellent!.

However I agree with Beerco in what he said as "over-prescribed". The science behind power training and power meeters barely exists (I mean "real" science ) and what is out there is not very solid (notes, paper articles and some books, in my opinion). So the problem is that many coaches out there with no scientific bacground nor a knowlege of cycling metabolism prescribe to cyclists, especially over the net in a "copy and paste" way, in many cases not knowing to who the are giving the info and what´s worse..if his/her client can assimilate that prescription with any physiological data. Otherwise it is real fun.

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Old 15-03.-2008, 11:43 AM   #22
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Is there something wrong with me if I have fun looking at all my ride data, geeking out on the numbers and charts? It's bonus after the ride fun.
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Old 15-03.-2008, 03:59 PM   #23
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And starting at around $1000 is there really any other pice of cycling gear that will get you the improvements that a power meter does? (eg. if you and I are the same speed today and I get a power tap at $1200, you get a set of Zipps for $2400, you may beat me tomorrow. but a month from now and anytime after I will blow you away!)
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