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03-03.-2008, 04:54 PM
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Re: Chaos in pro cycling: enough is enough!
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But if they kill sponsors by banning teams for six months for racing ASO races... Ai yai yai... will this sport survive?.. 
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03-03.-2008, 04:56 PM
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yep, credibility was shot last year after unibet. |
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03-03.-2008, 11:00 PM
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Re: Chaos in pro cycling: enough is enough!
Frank Vandenbroucke to sue UCI - Fans outraged and planning more protest
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03-03.-2008, 11:05 PM
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03-03.-2008, 11:14 PM
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03-03.-2008, 11:47 PM
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how VdB 2002 dope concerning with 2008 today???   
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04-03.-2008, 12:06 AM
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Re: Chaos in pro cycling: enough is enough!
Hein Verbruggen probably overheard Frank VdB saying something nasty about him at a party or something...
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04-03.-2008, 12:40 AM
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Re: Chaos in pro cycling: enough is enough!
When FVDB took EPO it was like with the agreement of UCI and Verbrugghen, and now they want to "kill" him.
Probably their last battles before the death of the old guard. Quote:
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04-03.-2008, 12:58 AM
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Re: Chaos in pro cycling: enough is enough!
I was at the Omloop and saw a lot of angry VDB fans. frank is still very popular in Belgium. Some of the fans are discussing further actions and want McQuaid and Verbruggen to step down. They are already sending e-mails to McQuaid and Verbruggen and will start an online petition as well. Belgian TV and a few newspapers brought pictures of protesting VDB fans along the route of the Omloop. They want to continue with that in the coming weeks (lots of Belgian semi-classics). They are also discussing to stop the start of the Tour of Flanders for one minute.
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04-03.-2008, 03:09 AM
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Re: Chaos in pro cycling: enough is enough!
I used to be under the (mistaken) impression that the UCI were doing their best to sort out the mess - I have since changed my mind. Mr McQuaid please explain how Armstrong is allowed 7 Tour wins whilst Ulle's career is dumped down the pan? Basso gets a ban whilst Valverde carries on regardless? Rasmussen gets dragged kicking and screaming from the yellow jersey so they can hand it to AC? DiLuca continues racing whilst VDB isn't even allowed to tag on at the back of the peleton. Yes take a tough stance on doping, but make up some rules before you do it and then follow them through, applying them to all in equal measure. The sooner McQuaid resigns the better.
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04-03.-2008, 04:34 AM
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...or the sooner ASO take over the better. |
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04-03.-2008, 05:34 AM
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The current situation is the results of Verbruggen's power dream. He wanted a Formule1 system or to be equal to FIFA! 2 federations which are making lot and lot and lot of money... With real people at the head and running UCI, cycling world will be better. And the sooner the better. |
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04-03.-2008, 08:06 AM
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Actually if you read my post correctly you will read that I have written the word.MAYBE: |
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04-03.-2008, 08:19 AM
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I've used this example before, but there was a time about 40-50 years ago when people who played sport professionally were considered cheats if they raced/competed against amateurs. There was definitely a sport apartheid between amateurs and professionals. Now sports professionalism is just considered mandatory if you want to become the best. I know its not the same as drugs and their effects, but my point is that testing for PED's may eventually be determined to be impossible, and eventually we may give up. We are fighting for a clean sport, but it may turn out to be impossible to achieve. It might be just a sad reality that we eventually have to submit to.
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04-03.-2008, 08:25 AM
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There needs to be an independent organization to handle formulating and enforcing the rules. The riders and the race organizers need to have substantial representation. There is no reason to have national federations at the pro level. That has created a situation where some countries like France are diligent about stopping doping and others like Spain act as their riders' consigliere. There should be a separate organization that promotes the sport. It could be a syndicate that has represtantives from the race organizers. Doping controls need to be transparent. I think it should be automated so that independent labs report the results of coded samples to a website that then matches the code with the rider and makes the announcement to the public. Right now months can go by between a sample testing positive and the public and presumably the rider get informed. That time gap has always been suspicious. It makes people wonder what is going on behind the scenes.
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