Chaos in pro cycling: enough is enough!

poulidor

Because Bruyneel brokes 2 times the team agreements : Basso and first to use blood doping last year on P-N. So you cannot trust him. Many DS are in favor of the exclusion. Most of them need to satisfy their sponsor, and Bruyneel was playing solo last year trying to catch sponsors even by doping program! Most of the DS would have been happy if Bruyneel was off.

Frigo's Luggage

Another good point.

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cyclingheroes

No but I don't like... well we do not give any wildcards to a team with VDB because he was banned in 2002 but well we do give wildcards to a team with Hondo or Millar. Lets act against Tyler but not against Contador (The UCI wants Astana to start at the Tour). The governing body is not governing with their own rules.

The other part is: are people sure that Bruyneel is the main problem? Ask Sinkewitz about Lefevere. Or Jaksche about Stanga. Or think about CSC, or Saunier... Etc. etc. etc.

Pro cycling always picked single riders, now ASO changed that in picking out single teams. Will that change something? I don't think so. We need substantial changes, one of them is a change of culture (thanks Thunder, forgot about that), the other is a transparent set of rules for all involved parties. Cheap pr moves like picking out certain teams or riders will not solve anything.

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jhuskey

CH: I have a theory that only the fastest riders are doping. The solution is to eliminate the first 4 or 5 top finishers in each race and assume that the rest are clean.
Now, cyclist are not the smartest lot ,as we know, but will eventually catch onto this ploy so we will need to devise a back-up plan within a year or so.

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Crankyfeet

But what sort of example are you setting when you book a driver because his reputation is that he drives fast?

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cyclingheroes

Actually thats a good idea, we could give the price money to poor international federations who need our help...

Anyway, Saturday is Omloop time, still have a few Belgian Palm beers left but I need new supplies on Saturday...

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poulidor

Last year we have seen how some teams are acting. After many years of scandals, UCI and teams have failed to resolve the problem of doping.
Now cycling is pressured by extern world (TV, media and governemnt).

I have no confidence by an answer made inside team. An extern control is required.
Shocking cycling world ( Astana exclusion) was required too, at least now sponsors would not put their feet inside a team with no anti-doping policies and strategy.

Crankyfeet

Just remember CH. It's:

1. Watch race
2. Write report
3. Drink lots of beer.

Be careful not to get steps 2. and 3. mixed up...

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cyclingheroes

Depends on the race. The Tour 2006 and 2007 were probebly more easy to understand with doing step 3 before the other two...

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Crankyfeet

It's only going to get fixed when doping controls (external) make it too dangerous to dope. All the other agreements and affadavits and culture change and banning teams arbitrarily and new era talk is just pissing into the wind IMHO.

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cyclingheroes

Agreed but a culture change is important. If it is honest and not just another pr move.

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jhuskey

I thought doping controls were the knobs on some type of automatic injection machine.

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Crankyfeet

The culture change is important, though it will probably take a lot longer to occur than the results of draconian anti-doping controls.

At the moment, it is hard for the riders and teams to accept the demands for a new culture in cycling when the parties that were mainly responsible for nurturing the rotten culture (UCI, ASO etc.) are accepting no responsibility for their part in the mess and are scapegoating a handful of cyclists and a team as the axis of evil.

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Crankyfeet

No... they're the knobs that get to go to the ski resort and test Simoni when he's on vacation (and have a few beers while they're there no doubt... it would be rude not to)....

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