UCI wants teams to boycott Paris-Nice

Bro Deal

I don't think the ASO has much control over the situation. If the lab finds a positive, it would probably leak to the press and the ASO would not have a chance to cover it up.

I think the French doing the testing will be a lot more trustworthy than the UCI doin gthe testing.

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Crankyfeet

I thought the UCI had independent labs doing it as well?

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Eldrack

Provided off course that the labs actually stick to the correct proceedures so that the evidence is admissable in court.

Bro Deal

They have covered stuff up in the past. Plus I don't trust the UCI. There are many odd patterns to who tests positive and who does not.

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Crankyfeet

I agree with you, though I don't have your archival knowledge. I find it difficult to imagine, however, the scenario of a lab finding a positive, and handing it to the UCI, and then the UCI bins it. It would be hard for the lab to keep that obvious fraud under wraps.

It is easier for me to imagine that the UCI forewarned certain parties of the tests that were going to be administered, or helped switch out samples before sending them to the lab. I suppose DNA testing makes sample switching too risky now.

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Originally posted by Frigo's Luggage...

"[Calling him] 'dickcheese' is the insult of a master. Some people work in oil, some people work in clay. He [thoughtforfood] works in profanity. Open your mind and enjoy its beauty."

poulidor

Before WADA agreement AAF were send by the lab to UCI. Then UCI send it after some verification like TUE... to the national federation and the rider and/or team.
Don't forget that the lab has no name.

poulidor

The clown and buffon McQuaid has threaten t by letter each rider of Paris-Nice :
- 6 months suspension
- 10 000 francs suisse as fine
- no JO
UCI buffons: Verbruggen and McQuaid

Crankyfeet

The riders need a formal Union. In the history of cycling I think, the riders (especially the domestiques) were treated like slave hands. The riders need to unite for themselves. No one in the system is going to support elevating them to have more say.

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Originally posted by Frigo's Luggage...

"[Calling him] 'dickcheese' is the insult of a master. Some people work in oil, some people work in clay. He [thoughtforfood] works in profanity. Open your mind and enjoy its beauty."

poulidor

McQuaid has refused to meet the french secretary of sport who put forward a mediator role between the 2 parts in that crisis.

poulidor

I don't see how UCI could punish 160 riders ! That punishment will just show UCI incompetence to resolve the problem and sink deeper to a bigger problem.

Cobblestones

Is UCI pushing to boycott all ASO events (including the TdF) or only PN? If it's only PN, then I can see it working to some degree with some teams (not the French teams obviously). If UCI expects teams to boycott the TdF, then, I think, they'll just dig their own grave.

poulidor

For me with that stupid threat against people (riders and sponsors) taken inside the battle, they have dug their grave.

Just for Paris Nice but Paris-Roubaix is still not on UCI calendar !

Cobblestones

So, there's indication, if the call for boycotting PN resonates with the teams, the next ASO race (PR) might get the same treatment from the UCI? With all the races ASO has bought (did they see this shit coming) compared to the UCI races which are the olympics (a joke mostly since riders follow team affiliations) and the world's (that one might hurt a bit), is there any doubt which side the teams will choose?

stilesiii

Finally, someone hits the nail on the head!

It is way past time for the peleton to step forward and unite. I cannot understand why these professional riders continue to let all these organizations dictate the rules. Does anyone watch the TDF to see UCI or ASO officials. The draw is the riders. The riders hold all the cards. This is a profession not ametuer competitions. These guys are trying to earn a living. I think they should look at professional golf's player's union as a model.

A rider's union could set up retirement benefits, medical benefits, doping protocols, sanctions, negotiations with event organizers, ect, ect.

If the olympics and worlds want a different standard, than let the riders interested in those events meet those standards.

The olympics, wada, ect, does not dictate NBA, MLB policy. Those policies are agreed to by the NBA and the NBA player's union. SAme for MLB.