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I'm reading a book now called "The Rider," by Tim Krabbe. It's the account of the author's emotions, thinking, and tactics during a long road race. In one part he's trying to chase down a break and he just hits the wall. "Then I remembered the words of advice: 'Shift, when you're really, truly at the end of your rope, to a higher gear.'"
This seems opposite of what we typically do, which would be to shift to a lower gear and spin faster for a bit. But is there wisdom in that advice? When you're shot is it really easier to maintain your speed by going to the next higher gear instead of dropping down one? Do any of you racers do this? |
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Downshifting when you've hit the wall is essentially giving up. In the book I think the author was figuratively saying "when you feel like giving up, dig deeper and keep fighting."
That said, I would agree that I can still mash (or stand) to some degree after spinning becomes unbearable. Muscle speed/coordination seems to leave before force gives out completely. |
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When I'm doing an hour of power on the trainer and I start to struggle, usually around the 40 minute mark, I shift up a cog. It seems more bearable to chug a biggie than rev a little 'un. Well, not really rev but I shift from a 17 to a 16 and push a bit harder.
No idea what the physiology or psychology is, and I know revving is better (and indeed I was revving nicely on the Saturday morning burn-up) but on the turbo slogging seems to get me to the finish of the hour. That book is a good read, but I think when he says change up when you're tired, I think he means just that! |
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I used to find that when I was just about done there was always a little bit more to be had if you dropped it into a smaller sprocket and got out of the saddle. At that stage you just hope that the other guys are suffering as much. When you're that shot then all "finesse" has gone and shifting to a smaller gear and pedaling faster often isn't on the table.
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In holland everybody rides in a lighter gear with very high cadence. everyone is taught that way and most guys have a natural cadence of at least 95. For going hard, typically 110 is seen as the magic number - most coaches here recommend doing intervals, racing crits etc at really high cadence. Now, those of you that ride high cadence will know that when you are really cooked at 110, there is a massive temptation to click down a cog and "grind" a little.....it just seems easier when you are totally spent.... I often find I am "recovering" on the 16/17 but " attttacking / chasing / closing gaps etc on the 18 / 19......don't know whether this makes any sense or not. |
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Cool! Tell him we loved the book. ![]() |
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I know that feeling and it's one's last throw. However, is that a wise thing to do? If one kept that bit of extra energy and just kept going for a little longer, would that have been better? Is this a psychological or physical issue? ![]()
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I've never heard that advise. When you were shot while racing - what we used tried to do was to maintain the same gear but drop the cadence in order to allow you to recover. If that didn't work, only then did we drop a gear (shift to an easier gear).
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...or a literary one? ![]() |
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If it means the difference between sitting on a wheel while mashing and riding nose in the wind pedaling gracefully off the back..... I'll take the monster mash. |
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So if you find yourself digging a hole just dig deeper and really bury yourself.
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-Dave edit...I guess this depends on how you typically ride and what gears you prefer. I raced track for years and tend to rely heavily on leg speed, especially in crits. So I'm generally already spinning fairly fast when the hammer drops or I start to lose it. Some folks pound bigger gears and jump out of the saddle out of every crit corner, I suppose a bigger gear might not help them much when the moment of truth comes. So, like everything else I suppose "it depends..." Last edited by daveryanwyoming : 20-02.-2008 at 04:40 AM. |
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I find by dropping into a bigger gear than I can hang on for a little longer - say on a longish climb or during a 40k effort but the end result is the same - maybe an extra few minutes with bigger gear and lower cadence. If I feel I really, really need to spin - I'm out the back. Hey above, I really liked that book too. Read it at least once per winter for some motivation. Six months of indoor training and ... well you need something to imagine eh?
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