No Tour for Astana

thunder

I know, was being specific. you are not too intelligent canondale.

C'dale Girl

Um, Cranky, that wasn't directed at you, unless you're answering for him?

tambourlain

Look back at my post. I said it wasn't a controlled test.

thunder

tambourlain your yanks dope with the best of them

Crankyfeet

Sorry dude. The team twice (three times if you count Vino's two failed tests) violated the signed agreement to not dope last year. The owners of the team are the same. The team is legally the same team. It doesn't matter that they have swapped out a few personnel and a coach. They are not being punished for nothing. It is only your demented notion that Astana is actually Disco, and that it is only the riders who should be banned, that prevents you from seeing the rationale of their exclusion.

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thunder

disco should have been banned too.

tambourlain

Hmm, I believe one of the guys that was caught doping in last year's Tour was simply a mid level domestique. Christian something? If your assumption is correct, everyone that is better than him, and that was about half the peleton, would have to be doping. So if half the peleton is doping, why is Astana out? And why all the hatred directed at a few individuals?

Frigo's Luggage

Hey Bro. Where is the article from the researcher that estimates about 80% of the bunch is on HGH?

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Crankyfeet

The position of domestiques in the GC standings is irrelevant. When they are not helping their man, they're supposed to be resting their legs. That especially goes for the TT's.

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C'dale Girl

I know you know, so who's not intelligent now? (you know, if you'd use an emoticon when you insult me, people would know you're only being sarcastic and joking. But, perhaps you don't want them to know you really think I'm smart? )

On that note, I'll leave the argument to the thread possessive, territorial men from Oz and find something more constructive to do, like read a book or something so I can gain some wits about me.

Enjoy.

thunder

moreni, and your assumption of him as a mid-level domestique sums up you knowledge.

moreni is a national champion of Italy, and a good classics rider, and a fast man in tough finishes that drop the sprinters.

as Crank points out, all riders have their roles and responsibilities. He is a stage hunter, not a GC man.

tambourlain

Well, looks like we have come full circle and we are back where we started. Playing with the cretin choir has been a lot of laughs, but I'm afraid that I'm running up this asylum's hit count. So I'll be back in August to remind you that I predicted that Menchov would be doped to the gills and would win the 08 Tour. Adios.

Crankyfeet

Your welcome. Nice to have enjoyed whipping your butt sir. You may come back earlier if you so wish. You are fun to hang out with...

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squidwranglr

You do, of course, realize that Lance Armstrong was a junior triathlon champion athlete competitive with age/experience groups beyond his own at the time he was discovered as a cyclist, right?

Or was the jab about his running performance simply because of your impression of his publicity-driven marathon outing last year?

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