No Tour for Astana

thunder

yeah, and also Contador had been on the feeder team, and Saiz systematically doped them too. The Wurth u23 team.

tambourlain

Did you even watch that Tour dimwit. No one on his team was chugging for him. He was isolated virtually all of the time. And who, pray tell, on that team, could have done anything in the Tour? The only half talent they had was Fothen, and he was riding for himself. Did you notice how well Gerolsteiner performed in the Tour without Levi? I have to wonder how one forum has managed to collect so many nut cases.

thunder

Levi should have been riing for Fothen and his white jersey if he was a decent team member. LL was out of all contention for GC.

He sucked. His breakawy attempt was futil on about stage 18 with Inaki Isasi the basque sprinter. He went nowhere.

If he was such a great tter he would have made some ground on the peloton.

He needs his bus gas.

tambourlain

Yeah, that's why he won the Dauphine, cause he didn't want to be tested and because he wanted to avoid attention.

Crankyfeet

So that's why the domestiques in the press conference were upset at his lacklustre final TT... Hmmm....

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thunder

the dauphine was before Puerto hit big time, with names released you fuckwit.

tambourlain

Why. Fothen wasn't willing to ride for Levi. In any case, Fothen blew his white jersey in an ITT and a climb where he couldn't stay remotely close to Cunego. Had nothing to do with Levi. Cunego was the better rider and he deserved the jersey. Besides, who ever uses their team to get a white jersey. You really are a fruit cake. As far as Levi being selfish, he helped Contador win three stage races last year. Hardly a selfish attitude for a rider of his caliber.

thunder

for fucks sake, LEVI lost he GC in the first TT.

Fothen could have hung on to his white jersey, with more help from LL in the mtns before the final tt you idiot.

Proves you have no idea.

thunder

Leipheimer never really helped Contador, you may remember the final mtn stage, he passed AC?

Why did he pass AC? Why not pace him instead?

Levi's attack's for Contador were BS, he barely raised the pace, and then he was back into the LL rythm so he could tt to the finish in his best time. No thought for blowing up himself so he could do something for AC against Rasmussen.

LL was a doped wheelsucking snivler. Fact!

tambourlain

Puerto hit in May. The Dauphine Libre runs in June, retard.

thunder

and when did Basso and Ullrich and Sevilla become attached?

Not til 3 days before the tour.

Crankyfeet

Look tambourine man, Levi is riding the best of his career and he's 35 this year. Explain that one to me, in thirty words or less. I guess its because he's "learning how to race". Or "using fast cadence for the first time". Or "learning how to pace himself better".

Men physically peak from 25-30. He has been a pro for 11 years. There are no secrets to learn about racing, no magical training methods or diets to learn. The guy has improved his average TT speed (power numbers) and his ability to recover in GT's because he is being doped better. The evidence is in what you see, and knowledge of simple physiology.

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thunder

tabourine take your lewd thoughts to a different forum. Children visit here.

tambourlain

Only if Levi had picked him up and carried him you dumb twat. Why should Levi do shit for Fothen when Fothen was riding for himself from the beginning. Even with Levi's time loss it was better for him to a least try for a placement. Like I said, no team uses their men to win a white jersey because it doesn't mean squat. And like I just explained to you, but your obviously to big an asshole to accept, Levi has worked selflessly for his teamates on countless other occasions. So you point is simply moronic.