Cadel EVANS supporting Contadope !!!!

12-02.-2008, 10:06 AM

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Cadel EVANS supporting Contadope !!!!

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Whereas it was present Monday with Hasselt in Belgium for the presentation of its team, lately named Silence, Cadel Evansemitted the wish to see the Spaniard Alberto Contador selected with its new Astana formation for next the Tour de France . “The Tour (2008) would be better with Astana and Contador because that would remove me a little pressure”, he declared. “I do not have any capacity, nor authority to say if Astana and Contador can or must be about it but, personally, I prefer that it not to have to support the weight of the race. My team is not made for that”.

Not retained to take part in Giro, Astana had been excluded the year last from the Grande Boucle after its leader, the Kazakh Alexandre Vinokourov had been controled positive. Contador, who won at the end of the three weeks of race, had also been the object of critical sharp because his name had often been associated in the vast affair of doping “ Operation Puerto”.

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Alors qu'il était présent lundi à Hasselt en Belgique pour la présentation de son équipe, nouvellement nommée Silence, Cadel Evans Alberto Contador sélectionné avec sa nouvelle formation Astana pour le prochain Tour de France a émis le souhait de voir l'Espagnol. «Le Tour (2008), ce serait mieux avec Astana et Contador car cela m'enlèverait un peu de pression», a-t-il déclaré. «Je n'ai aucun pouvoir, ni autorité pour dire si Astana et Contador peuvent ou doivent en être mais, personnellement, je préfèrerais que ce soit le cas, pour ne pas avoir à supporter le poids de la course. Mon équipe n'est pas faite pour cela».

Non retenue pour participer au Giro, Astana avait été exclue l'an passé de la Grande Boucle après que son leader, le Kazakh Alexandre Vinokourov eut été contrôle positif. Contador, qui s'était lui imposé au terme des trois semaines de course , avait également été l'objet de vives critiques car son nom était souvent revenu dans la vaste affaire de dopage «Puerto».

12-02.-2008, 10:15 AM	#2
Bro Deal Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Resting by the Tumtum tree Posts: 6,289	Re: Cadel EVANS supporting Contadope !!!! And this is why Evans will never win the Tour. He should have someone on the team subtly sticking a knife in Cantador for his membership in Liberty Seguros. Instead he doesn't want the pressure of being expected to win? WTF! __________________ "You are like the wind and I like the lion. You form the tempest. The sand stings my eyes and the ground is parched. I roar in defiance but you do not hear. But between us there is a difference. I, like the lion, must remain in my place. While you like the wind will never know yours." -- Mulay Hamid El Raisuli, Lord of the Riff, Sultan to the Berbers, Last of the Barbary Pirates

12-02.-2008, 10:23 AM	#3
Drongo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 271	Re: Cadel EVANS supporting Contadope !!!! Doesn't look good for him, does it? Either he says some silly things or he has a habit of talking in a way that ... leaves him open to misinterpretation. Perhaps the real point is made in the comment, 'My team is not made for that.' Lotto cannot control the race, and it'll be shedding all off his domestiques if it has to, leaving him exposed. Lotto isn't good enough (like Telekom was in the old days) to win both green and yellow jerseys. I think he was quite content to leave the hard graft to someone else's team, as long as he had a bit more support in the hills. Is that being scared, the dopers' friend, or just realistic?

12-02.-2008, 10:30 AM	#4
Aquamarinos Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 95	Re: Cadel EVANS supporting Contadope !!!! Evans is a whiney, even his voice sounds like a whiner... almost like a girl talking when he speaks.. Hope he wins at least one race this year...

12-02.-2008, 12:31 PM

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Doesn't look good for him, does it? Either he says some silly things or he has a habit of talking in a way that ... leaves him open to misinterpretation.

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Is that being scared, the dopers' friend, or just realistic?

Drongo, look at Cadel's comments (I think on his website) at around the time of Rasmussen's exit from the Tour. He wasn't exactly putting the boot in -("let's just let us get on with the racing" or something of that ilk).

Compare and contrast with Adam Hansen.

I mentioned something similar in relation to Menchov on the 'clean riders' thread in dpf:

"The fact that someone talks anti-doping rhetoric is neither here nor there - look at Hamilton - but when someone is reticient to speak against the dopers in their ranks, I can only assume it is because they benefit more from the existence of the omerta than its absence - whether by avoiding retribution, keeping the support of doped teamamtes, or that they are dopers themselves. Where Menchov fits in, I couldn't really say with any justification"

It doesn't necessarilymean he dopes. It just means that he's happy with the status quo - for whatever reason...

Notwithstanding that, I don't think Cadel has any reason to be upset with Alberto Contador. I just think he'd like to be as well prepared for the Tour as the Discovery team were last year - because he's confident that he's a better rider, ceteris paribus.

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12-02.-2008, 12:45 PM

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Evans is a whiney, even his voice sounds like a whiner... almost like a girl talking when he speaks..

Hope he wins at least one race this year...

Since we don't get to choose our voices at birth, or develop them into anything we want... it bespeaks of prejudice that you would judge someone's character on their voice. It is also a major factor in Obama's popularity. Imagine how popular Obama would be if he had a voice like Cadel's.

Having said that, Cadel is whiny in his words without the need to listen to his voice... so I agree with you.

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12-02.-2008, 12:48 PM

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And this is why Evans will never win the Tour. He should have someone on the team subtly sticking a knife in Cantador for his membership in Liberty Seguros. Instead he doesn't want the pressure of being expected to win? WTF!

No... I think (with Drongo's help) that he wants to win ... and figures he has the best chance with Astana leading the peloton... and not Silence-Lotto.

But it does on the surface sound like he would rather have the top contender in the race than not have him. Which looks on the surface as though he wants to come second again... or at least not be the favorite..

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12-02.-2008, 01:45 PM

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Amazes me that Obama is so popular. The guy is the master of talking and not saying anything. Just what we need here in America...A socialist to screw the country even more.

Cadel isn't going to whine because he's as juiced as the rest of them.

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12-02.-2008, 02:06 PM

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Only in America would Barack Obama be pronounced a socialist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist

Didn't see any plans he has for nationalising industry and the banks, etc etc... did you? The man hasn't even advocated a national health service.

Obama may be a lot of things, but in historical terms he looks as centre/centre-right as the rest of the Democrats crew over there.

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12-02.-2008, 02:13 PM

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Exactly, why WOULD Cadel back Contador:

1. He thinks Contador is clean.

2. He thinks that the ongoing controversy is generally bringing cycling, and hence his salary, down.

3. He thinks Contador doped but he also dopes and doesnt want too many questions asked.

4. He wants to look like a sporting guy.

5. He is a spineless whiner.

6. Combination of the above.

#5 is a given of course.

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12-02.-2008, 02:34 PM

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Exactly, why WOULD Cadel back Contador:

1. He thinks Contador is clean.

2. He thinks that the ongoing controversy is generally bringing cycling, and hence his salary, down.

3. He thinks Contador doped but he also dopes and doesnt want too many questions asked.

4. He wants to look like a sporting guy.

5. LA is a cheat and a doper

6. Combination of the above.

#5 is a given of course.

Fixed that for you

12-02.-2008, 03:22 PM

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Fixed that for you

LOL.

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12-02.-2008, 03:25 PM

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I like it. I would add another reason (i.e. what I've posted above) but that's not a bad summary, all told.

edit: and take out reason 1, naturally. AC might not dope, of course, but that would come as a helluva shock.

Last edited by Drongo : 12-02.-2008 at 03:28 PM. Reason: remedying forgetfulness

12-02.-2008, 07:47 PM

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Obama is a free-market liberal who would do what he's told to do by his advisors and most likely lead the US towards confrontation with Russia (perhaps also with Pakistan). But, if he wins the Democrat nomination then McCain will be the next US Pres, so it's irrelevant - but - back to the topic...

If Evans was strictly anti-doping he would come out strongly against Contadope, just as he would have against Ras. His new team name (Silence) speaks volumes. He is also being realistic in admitting that his team is at least half built around helping Robbie win the flat stages. He therefore needs to have Astana or another team take control of breaks etc on the mountain stages so there's not another Oscar P situation.

12-02.-2008, 11:16 PM	#15
Trev_S Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 343	Re: Cadel EVANS supporting Contadope !!!! I think you guys are reading into something that doesn't exist. Cadel is not backing Contador he is saying he would like him & Astana in the race. As defending champ the pressure will immediately be on Contador and the Astana team. Silence-Lotto as Cadel states does not have the same structure of Astana and can not control the race to the same affect. Cadel can use Astana by sitting in on their gains on the road after if/when his own team mates have dropped off. Limit his losses where he has to and make gains where his strengths lay. Simple tactic, let Astana do the work, then capitalise. He is not winging, just stating how it is. A realist. He will bust his gut in an effort to win the TDF and I'm sure like everyone he wants to win it against the current champ.

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