What Sort of Arsehole Does This?

Theo Bekkers

Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> Theo Bekkers wrote:

>> ROTFL. That was very clever indeed, painting us both as small furtive
>> creatures afraid of being found out by our bosses. If you follow my
>> email adress to the bekkers.com.au website, you will find I have
>> little to be afraid of my boss.

> Heh. Last job I had I got because of my usenet posts. THe people who
> offered it to me had never met me until they invited me for the
> interview. (I knew one of them from aus.moto but only via posts.)
>
> I got the current one partly because of my usenet and mailing list
> profile too. As I post with my real name and use the same email on
> all my net.interactions it wouldn't be hard for my boss to find what
> I was posting. As they've done before and no doubt will again. I
> have been told in job interviews that they've googled me (and in one
> interview that what they found was a major plus.)
>
> (I do find it funny when people who post with names like "Tomasso"
> <Tomasso@blank.blank> accuse me of being scared of someone finding my
> posts. My mother reads usenet, I'd be more worried about her thinking
> ill of me than a boss doing so. So far if I have disappointed her she
> has not said so.)

I know your mother approves of you Zebee. Hi Clare if you're lurking here.

I also find that hilarious Zebee. I have been posting with the same address
for 14 years now. Sorry, not true, I may for a while have been posting as
theo.bekkers@bekkers.com.au, or tb@bekkers.com.au. or maybe tb@bekkersit.com
or .com.au. All are still current valid adresses. Then you hear some
bleating from anon@ymous.hiding.here about being afraid someone will see
your post. :-)

>> Agreed, I'm afraid you may find that they are not the thoughtless
>> bogans you imagine them to be, but otherwise normal locals, who have
>> put up with the noise, and the councils inaction, for years. Not an
>> excuse for their behaviour, just saying who they are.

> That's the problem. THey took a solution that seemed to be the only
> one they had. Why couldn't they think of another one? What other
> things had they tried?
>
> I don't know. THe papers don't say, so I doubt anyone here knows
> either.
>
> THey might be reckless stupid aggressive sociopaths. I doubt it, I
> think it is more likely they were ordinary people tried beyond
> endurance who saw no other solution. meaning there has to be a way to
> show such people other solutions because this isn't the first time
> it's been done and won't be the last.

If you assume bogans out being stupid, and wait for them to do it again in a
nearby area, you will have a long wait.

Theo

lemmiwinks.au@gmail.com

On Feb 16, 5:56 pm, "Tomasso" <Toma...@blank.blank> wrote:
> Sometimes I think Zebee is some kind of fascist-apoligist Jesuit-educated
> polemicist. A bit like Michael Duffy in drag, or Miranda Devine who has
> momentarily forgotten that cycling is evil.
>
> Other times I think she's some kind of OC focus junkie who will post some
> kind of contrarian nonsense to anything. A person like that who leave enough
> gaps to maintain a thread but basically wastes bandwidth.

It's called empathy, you should try it some time.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/empathy

Theo Bekkers

lemmiwinks.au@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 16, 5:56 pm, "Tomasso" <Toma...@blank.blank> wrote:
>> Sometimes I think Zebee is some kind of fascist-apoligist
>> Jesuit-educated polemicist. A bit like Michael Duffy in drag, or
>> Miranda Devine who has momentarily forgotten that cycling is evil.
>>
>> Other times I think she's some kind of OC focus junkie who will post
>> some kind of contrarian nonsense to anything. A person like that who
>> leave enough gaps to maintain a thread but basically wastes
>> bandwidth.
>
> It's called empathy, you should try it some time.
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/empathy

Hehe. Rhymes with apathy.
Up until now I didn't even know that Jesuit-educated was an insult.

Theo
Who's Michael Duffy?

lemmiwinks.au@gmail.com

On Feb 18, 12:18 pm, "Theo Bekkers" <tbekk...@bekkers.com.au> wrote:
> lemmiwinks...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Feb 16, 5:56 pm, "Tomasso" <Toma...@blank.blank> wrote:
> >> Sometimes I think Zebee is some kind of fascist-apoligist
> >> Jesuit-educated polemicist. A bit like Michael Duffy in drag, or
> >> Miranda Devine who has momentarily forgotten that cycling is evil.
>
> >> Other times I think she's some kind of OC focus junkie who will post
> >> some kind of contrarian nonsense to anything. A person like that who
> >> leave enough gaps to maintain a thread but basically wastes
> >> bandwidth.
>
> > It's called empathy, you should try it some time.
> >http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/empathy
>
> Hehe. Rhymes with apathy.
> Up until now I didn't even know that Jesuit-educated was an insult.

Me either actually.

> Theo
> Who's Michael Duffy?

Never heard of him.

Zebee Johnstone

In aus.bicycle on Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:18:45 +0900
Theo Bekkers <tbekkers@bekkers.com.au> wrote:
> Hehe. Rhymes with apathy.
> Up until now I didn't even know that Jesuit-educated was an insult.
>

Jesuitical as in "Jesuitical argument" is an insult I believe. OF the "dammit, too clever by half
I'd prefer to settle it behind the bike sheds" variety.

I wonder if Jesuit-educated is a riff on that as in "Not quite clever
enough to be Jesuitical".

I was State school educated so missed out on all that.

Zebee

Theo Bekkers

Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> Theo Bekkers wrote:

>> Up until now I didn't even know that Jesuit-educated was an insult.

> Jesuitical as in "Jesuitical argument" is an insult I believe. OF
> the "dammit, too clever by half I'd prefer to settle it behind the
> bike sheds" variety.
>
> I wonder if Jesuit-educated is a riff on that as in "Not quite clever
> enough to be Jesuitical".
>
> I was State school educated so missed out on all that.

I went to Montessori Kindy, then Catholic Primary for 4 years, migrated, two
years in Marist Bros primary, three years in Marist Bros boarding school,
then two years in a State high school.

Theo

G-S

Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>
> THey might be reckless stupid aggressive sociopaths. I doubt it, I
> think it is more likely they were ordinary people tried beyond
> endurance who saw no other solution.
>

Isn't one definition of a sociopath someone who can't empathize
sufficiently with other people, such that other peoples pain and
injuries become unreal.

And if that person strings wire can't understand that it may cause
serious injury or even death then doesn't that automatically define them?

That's one possibility...

The other I see is that they do understand that their actions have a
real possibility to cause injury and/or death but they place
noise/inconvenience higher in the scheme of things than other peoples
health/life.

Either way... however ordinary they may seem... that's not 'normal'. [1]


G-S

[1] I concede that the persistent noise might drive some people over the
edge and could concievably have been a contributing factor to the mental
issues, but again I can't see defining that as 'normal' or 'ordinary'.

G-S

Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>
> PEople don't think of themselves as stupid or evil. They think of
> themselves as doing the right thing.
>

Of course! I never claimed that wasn't the case.

The fact that they 'think' this however doesn't mean it is in fact true.


G-S

Graeme Dods

On Feb 17, 1:17 pm, "Theo Bekkers" <tbekk...@bekkers.com.au> wrote:

> I also find that hilarious Zebee. I have been posting with the same address
> for 14 years now. Sorry, not true, I may for a while have been posting as
> theo.bekk...@bekkers.com.au, or t...@bekkers.com.au. or maybe t...@bekkersit.com
> or .com.au. All are still current valid adresses. Then you hear some
> bleating from a...@ymous.hiding.here about being afraid someone will see
> your post. :-)

You do get some weird complaints about the ID you post with. In an
effort to reduce the chances of receiving spam as a result of my
usenet postings I munged my address a little by inserting
"removethisbit" before the ".com". Then somebody complained it was a
valid domain and somebody might want to start using it (a guide for
clueless surgeons maybe?). A few clicks of the mouse and some credit
card details later and that problem was solved, I see it's about to
expire though, so I should update my details. Either way, I don't even
use that address now, but I'm certainly not anonymous!


Graeme
Graeme

Dave Hughes

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:04:59 -0800, Graeme Dods wrote:

> You do get some weird complaints about the ID you post with.

At the risk of generating a bucket of spam, "spambait" is actually a valid
address at my vanity domain. Gets stuff all mail, and since "bait" gets
silently dropped the despamming robots tend to shoot themselves in the
foot.

--
Dave Hughes - dave@hired-goons.net
You're a classic example of that inverse
ratio between the size of the mouth and the
size of the brain - Doctor Who