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G.T.

Seth Hammond wrote:
> "TM" <lkjd@lkjk.com> wrote in message news:EMXqj.1$RI.0@newsfe06.lga...
>> "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhammond@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:61180nF1skpm9U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> -----------------------
>>>
>>> My son is the racer, or was. He was leading in class points before a
>>> recent race. The promoter decided late in the game to add a Short Track
>>> race. One mass start was a fustercluck, but my son worked his way
>>> through until a backmarker crowded him off the track and out of the race.
>>> My son lost it and tackled the guy at the end of the race, but it was
>>> broken up by others before a punch was thrown. He was disqualified from
>>> the race and the series, as well as every race the promoter runs - which
>>> is most of the races on the lower right coast and Florida where he lives.
>>> My son has effectively retired from racing. Oh, for the days of AJ Foyt
>>> the pit brawler. Dale Earnhart was no slouch either. Oh well, these are
>>> the days of political correctness, I guess. He should have kissed and
>>> made up.
>>>
>> Sounds like the promoter did everyone a favor. If he wants to 'tackle',
>> he should play football. Everyone else showed up to race bikes and go
>> home.
>>
>> Slower riders are a part of the game from beginner to pro and it is always
>> the responsibility of the faster rider to make sure the pass goes
>> smoothly. It's a skill that every successful racer has developed and your
>> son should as well.
>
> He's ridden competitively for 12+ years, and last year turned Pro, so I
> guess his passing skills are well practiced. He was again the points leader
> in his age group of 41-43.

You're so full of shit. Anyone at the expert or pro level doesn't ride
in age groups so small. That's beginner shit.

Greg

Scott Gordo

On Feb 8, 2:17*pm, "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Corvus Corvax" <corvuscor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:76fb3018-1076-4c35-be6b-6aa02fcaf955@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Feb 7, 3:29 pm, "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> My son lost it
> >> and tackled the guy at the end of the race, but it was broken up by
> >> others
> >> before a punch was thrown. *He was disqualified from the race and the
> >> series, as well as every race the promoter runs
> > [...]
> >> Oh well, these are the days of political
> >> correctness, I guess. *He should have kissed and made up.
>
> > Objecting to assault is "political correctness"? Good for the
> > promoter.
>
> I understand, and even agree. *I can also see the opposite view. *The passer
> gave warning and was deliberately run off the track and into the woods.
> Remember, my son was the points leader in his age division - not something
> easily achieved then thrown away.
>
> What would you have done?

Okay, this whole thread has suffered from 'unreliable narrator'
issues.

From the first post, I assumed that you were riding your first race,
got upset when people passed you, started blocking faster riders, was
chastised for it and now you are some support.

When you said it was your son, I figured he's some confused teenager
and felt sympathetic. After all, the kid is acting appropriately, like
a juvenile. And for all we know there might be an underlying story,
maybe this other kid has been picking on your every day since
elementary school and this was the rightful pummeling this guy
deserved. And you, as a father, are looking to defend your son even
when probably wrong, as any overly protective parent should.

Then I read that he's between 41 and 44, and I thought, oh, well, what
kind of man-baby is this guy? I mean, what is WRONG with him? Why
doesn't he get himself a life with some real problems beyond
assaulting another individual over a preceived slight while riding his
bicycle? And how is his OP father responsible for enabling this type
of behavior?

And then I realized that I'm a lot closer to 41-44 than my teens. In
other words, what there was of my athletic "prime" is fading faster
than smoke rings and beer burps. If I thought I was about to win a
race (any race, please!) there's no telling what I might do to an
opponent. I might make the chariot race in Spartacus look like
Valentine's Day toodle.

I think that you owe it to us to write that it was all a dream and we
can be done with it.

Thank you,

Scott

Seth Hammond

"Scott Gordo" <blubberpuss@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9900aa54-8a0c-4f82-94c9-458c705426e1@f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 2:17 pm, "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Corvus Corvax" <corvuscor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:76fb3018-1076-4c35-be6b-6aa02fcaf955@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Feb 7, 3:29 pm, "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> My son lost it
> >> and tackled the guy at the end of the race, but it was broken up by
> >> others
> >> before a punch was thrown. He was disqualified from the race and the
> >> series, as well as every race the promoter runs
> > [...]
> >> Oh well, these are the days of political
> >> correctness, I guess. He should have kissed and made up.
>
> > Objecting to assault is "political correctness"? Good for the
> > promoter.
>
> I understand, and even agree. I can also see the opposite view. The passer
> gave warning and was deliberately run off the track and into the woods.
> Remember, my son was the points leader in his age division - not something
> easily achieved then thrown away.
>
> What would you have done?

Okay, this whole thread has suffered from 'unreliable narrator'
issues.

From the first post, I assumed that you were riding your first race,
got upset when people passed you, started blocking faster riders, was
chastised for it and now you are some support.

When you said it was your son, I figured he's some confused teenager
and felt sympathetic. After all, the kid is acting appropriately, like
a juvenile. And for all we know there might be an underlying story,
maybe this other kid has been picking on your every day since
elementary school and this was the rightful pummeling this guy
deserved. And you, as a father, are looking to defend your son even
when probably wrong, as any overly protective parent should.

Then I read that he's between 41 and 44, and I thought, oh, well, what
kind of man-baby is this guy? I mean, what is WRONG with him? Why
doesn't he get himself a life with some real problems beyond
assaulting another individual over a preceived slight while riding his
bicycle? And how is his OP father responsible for enabling this type
of behavior?

And then I realized that I'm a lot closer to 41-44 than my teens. In
other words, what there was of my athletic "prime" is fading faster
than smoke rings and beer burps. If I thought I was about to win a
race (any race, please!) there's no telling what I might do to an
opponent. I might make the chariot race in Spartacus look like
Valentine's Day toodle.

I think that you owe it to us to write that it was all a dream and we
can be done with it.

Thank you,

Scott

-----------------

You're welcome. I started this thread because I knew there would be
different views. Yours is one of them. However, among the several things
you ignored or brushed off was my asking opinions of *racers* which you
clearly are not. Back to Spartacus with you. Good luck.

Seth Hammond

"G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:13qpctef3o6ot49@corp.supernews.com...
> Seth Hammond wrote:
>> "TM" <lkjd@lkjk.com> wrote in message news:EMXqj.1$RI.0@newsfe06.lga...
>>> "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhammond@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:61180nF1skpm9U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> -----------------------
>>>>
>>>> My son is the racer, or was. He was leading in class points before a
>>>> recent race. The promoter decided late in the game to add a Short
>>>> Track race. One mass start was a fustercluck, but my son worked his
>>>> way through until a backmarker crowded him off the track and out of the
>>>> race. My son lost it and tackled the guy at the end of the race, but it
>>>> was broken up by others before a punch was thrown. He was disqualified
>>>> from the race and the series, as well as every race the promoter runs -
>>>> which is most of the races on the lower right coast and Florida where
>>>> he lives. My son has effectively retired from racing. Oh, for the days
>>>> of AJ Foyt the pit brawler. Dale Earnhart was no slouch either. Oh
>>>> well, these are the days of political correctness, I guess. He should
>>>> have kissed and made up.
>>>>
>>> Sounds like the promoter did everyone a favor. If he wants to 'tackle',
>>> he should play football. Everyone else showed up to race bikes and go
>>> home.
>>>
>>> Slower riders are a part of the game from beginner to pro and it is
>>> always the responsibility of the faster rider to make sure the pass goes
>>> smoothly. It's a skill that every successful racer has developed and
>>> your son should as well.
>>
>> He's ridden competitively for 12+ years, and last year turned Pro, so I
>> guess his passing skills are well practiced. He was again the points
>> leader in his age group of 41-43.
>
> You're so full of shit. Anyone at the expert or pro level doesn't ride in
> age groups so small. That's beginner shit.
>
> Greg

If you say so. Perhaps you should notify all mountain bike racers in
Florida. North Carolina, Georgia, Utah, and Arizona are other places he's
raced. They may be different. I'm no expert in the matter. I barely
qualify as rider, and surely not racer.

DanKMTB@gmail.com

On Feb 8, 3:18*pm, "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
>
> news:13qpctef3o6ot49@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Seth Hammond wrote:
> >> "TM" <l...@lkjk.com> wrote in messagenews:EMXqj.1$RI.0@newsfe06.lga...
> >>> "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:61180nF1skpm9U1@mid.individual.net...
> >>>> -----------------------
>
> >>>> My son is the racer, or was. *He was leading in class points beforea
> >>>> recent race. *The promoter decided late in the game to add a Short
> >>>> Track race. *One mass start was a fustercluck, but my son worked his
> >>>> way through until a backmarker crowded him off the track and out of the
> >>>> race. My son lost it and tackled the guy at the end of the race, but it
> >>>> was broken up by others before a punch was thrown. *He was disqualified
> >>>> from the race and the series, as well as every race the promoter runs-
> >>>> which is most of the races on the lower right coast and Florida where
> >>>> he lives. My son has effectively retired from racing. *Oh, for the days
> >>>> of AJ Foyt the pit brawler. *Dale Earnhart was no slouch either. *Oh
> >>>> well, these are the days of political correctness, I guess. *He should
> >>>> have kissed and made up.
>
> >>> Sounds like the promoter did everyone a favor. *If he wants to 'tackle',
> >>> he should play football. *Everyone else showed up to race bikes and go
> >>> home.
>
> >>> Slower riders are a part of the game from beginner to pro and it is
> >>> always the responsibility of the faster rider to make sure the pass goes
> >>> smoothly. It's a skill that every successful racer has developed and
> >>> your son should as well.
>
> >> He's ridden competitively for 12+ years, and last year turned Pro, so I
> >> guess his passing skills are well practiced. *He was again the points
> >> leader in his age group of 41-43.
>
> > You're so full of shit. *Anyone at the expert or pro level doesn't ride in
> > age groups so small. *That's beginner shit.
>
> > Greg
>
> If you say so. *Perhaps you should notify all mountain bike racers in
> Florida. *North Carolina, Georgia, Utah, and Arizona are other places he's
> raced. *They may be different. *I'm no expert in the matter. *I barely
> qualify as rider, and surely not racer.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm curious, if you "barely qualify as rider, and surely not racer",
how you can be so sure Scott isn't a racer?

Scott Gordo

On Feb 8, 3:13*pm, "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Scott Gordo" <blubberp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9900aa54-8a0c-4f82-94c9-458c705426e1@f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 8, 2:17 pm, "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Corvus Corvax" <corvuscor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:76fb3018-1076-4c35-be6b-6aa02fcaf955@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On Feb 7, 3:29 pm, "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >> My son lost it
> > >> and tackled the guy at the end of the race, but it was broken up by
> > >> others
> > >> before a punch was thrown. He was disqualified from the race and the
> > >> series, as well as every race the promoter runs
> > > [...]
> > >> Oh well, these are the days of political
> > >> correctness, I guess. He should have kissed and made up.
>
> > > Objecting to assault is "political correctness"? Good for the
> > > promoter.
>
> > I understand, and even agree. I can also see the opposite view. The passer
> > gave warning and was deliberately run off the track and into the woods.
> > Remember, my son was the points leader in his age division - not something
> > easily achieved then thrown away.
>
> > What would you have done?
>
> Okay, this whole thread has suffered from 'unreliable narrator'
> issues.
>
> From the first post, I assumed that you were riding your first race,
> got upset when people passed you, started blocking faster riders, was
> chastised for it and now you are some support.
>
> When you said it was your son, I figured he's some confused teenager
> and felt sympathetic. After all, the kid is acting appropriately, like
> a juvenile. And for all we know there might be an underlying story,
> maybe this other kid has been picking on your every day since
> elementary school and this was the rightful pummeling this guy
> deserved. And you, as a father, are looking to defend your son even
> when probably wrong, as any overly protective parent should.
>
> Then I read that he's between 41 and 44, and I thought, oh, well, what
> kind of man-baby is this guy? I mean, what is WRONG with him? Why
> doesn't he get himself a life with some real problems beyond
> assaulting another individual over a preceived slight while riding his
> bicycle? And how is his OP father responsible for enabling this type
> of behavior?
>
> And then I realized that I'm a lot closer to 41-44 than my teens. In
> other words, what there was of my athletic "prime" is fading faster
> than smoke rings and beer burps. If I thought I was about to win a
> race (any race, please!) there's no telling what I might do to an
> opponent. I might make the chariot race in Spartacus look like
> Valentine's Day toodle.
>
> I think that you owe it to us to write that it was all a dream and we
> can be done with it.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Scott
>
> -----------------
>
> You're welcome. *I started this thread because I knew there would be
> different views. *Yours is one of them. *However, among the several things
> you ignored or brushed off was my asking opinions of *racers* which you
> clearly are not. *Back to Spartacus with you. *Good luck.- Hide quotedtext -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hah! Way to get snippy with someone who's sorta backing your views.
I'll have you know that my entry fees have lined many a race winner's
pocket, and though I have felt blood lust towards those faster than I,
I just never had the energy after a race.

Well, like they say, the apple doesn't fall far. Please don't send
your son to beat me up, and have fun screaming at people in a faster
line at Walmart.

Peace!

Scott

Seth Hammond

"Scott Gordo" <blubberpuss@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:10906305-a87c-438a-94e2-ad4a8acfc44b@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 3:13 pm, "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Scott Gordo" <blubberp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9900aa54-8a0c-4f82-94c9-458c705426e1@f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 8, 2:17 pm, "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Corvus Corvax" <corvuscor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:76fb3018-1076-4c35-be6b-6aa02fcaf955@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On Feb 7, 3:29 pm, "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >> My son lost it
> > >> and tackled the guy at the end of the race, but it was broken up by
> > >> others
> > >> before a punch was thrown. He was disqualified from the race and the
> > >> series, as well as every race the promoter runs
> > > [...]
> > >> Oh well, these are the days of political
> > >> correctness, I guess. He should have kissed and made up.
>
> > > Objecting to assault is "political correctness"? Good for the
> > > promoter.
>
> > I understand, and even agree. I can also see the opposite view. The
> > passer
> > gave warning and was deliberately run off the track and into the woods.
> > Remember, my son was the points leader in his age division - not
> > something
> > easily achieved then thrown away.
>
> > What would you have done?
>
> Okay, this whole thread has suffered from 'unreliable narrator'
> issues.
>
> From the first post, I assumed that you were riding your first race,
> got upset when people passed you, started blocking faster riders, was
> chastised for it and now you are some support.
>
> When you said it was your son, I figured he's some confused teenager
> and felt sympathetic. After all, the kid is acting appropriately, like
> a juvenile. And for all we know there might be an underlying story,
> maybe this other kid has been picking on your every day since
> elementary school and this was the rightful pummeling this guy
> deserved. And you, as a father, are looking to defend your son even
> when probably wrong, as any overly protective parent should.
>
> Then I read that he's between 41 and 44, and I thought, oh, well, what
> kind of man-baby is this guy? I mean, what is WRONG with him? Why
> doesn't he get himself a life with some real problems beyond
> assaulting another individual over a preceived slight while riding his
> bicycle? And how is his OP father responsible for enabling this type
> of behavior?
>
> And then I realized that I'm a lot closer to 41-44 than my teens. In
> other words, what there was of my athletic "prime" is fading faster
> than smoke rings and beer burps. If I thought I was about to win a
> race (any race, please!) there's no telling what I might do to an
> opponent. I might make the chariot race in Spartacus look like
> Valentine's Day toodle.
>
> I think that you owe it to us to write that it was all a dream and we
> can be done with it.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Scott
>
> -----------------
>
> You're welcome. I started this thread because I knew there would be
> different views. Yours is one of them. However, among the several things
> you ignored or brushed off was my asking opinions of *racers* which you
> clearly are not. Back to Spartacus with you. Good luck.- Hide quoted
> text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hah! Way to get snippy with someone who's sorta backing your views.
I'll have you know that my entry fees have lined many a race winner's
pocket, and though I have felt blood lust towards those faster than I,
I just never had the energy after a race.

Well, like they say, the apple doesn't fall far. Please don't send
your son to beat me up, and have fun screaming at people in a faster
line at Walmart.

Peace!

Scott

-----------------

Excuse me all to hell. You didn't strike me as a racer. My bad.

Excuse me also for using this group as a source of information. I thought,
well, mountain-bike group and all....

Seth Hammond

<DanKMTB@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d989b973-0390-4442-b71c-096ab8be5b7f@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 3:18 pm, "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
>
> news:13qpctef3o6ot49@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Seth Hammond wrote:
> >> "TM" <l...@lkjk.com> wrote in messagenews:EMXqj.1$RI.0@newsfe06.lga...
> >>> "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:61180nF1skpm9U1@mid.individual.net...
> >>>> -----------------------
>
> >>>> My son is the racer, or was. He was leading in class points before a
> >>>> recent race. The promoter decided late in the game to add a Short
> >>>> Track race. One mass start was a fustercluck, but my son worked his
> >>>> way through until a backmarker crowded him off the track and out of
> >>>> the
> >>>> race. My son lost it and tackled the guy at the end of the race, but
> >>>> it
> >>>> was broken up by others before a punch was thrown. He was
> >>>> disqualified
> >>>> from the race and the series, as well as every race the promoter
> >>>> runs -
> >>>> which is most of the races on the lower right coast and Florida where
> >>>> he lives. My son has effectively retired from racing. Oh, for the
> >>>> days
> >>>> of AJ Foyt the pit brawler. Dale Earnhart was no slouch either. Oh
> >>>> well, these are the days of political correctness, I guess. He should
> >>>> have kissed and made up.
>
> >>> Sounds like the promoter did everyone a favor. If he wants to
> >>> 'tackle',
> >>> he should play football. Everyone else showed up to race bikes and go
> >>> home.
>
> >>> Slower riders are a part of the game from beginner to pro and it is
> >>> always the responsibility of the faster rider to make sure the pass
> >>> goes
> >>> smoothly. It's a skill that every successful racer has developed and
> >>> your son should as well.
>
> >> He's ridden competitively for 12+ years, and last year turned Pro, so I
> >> guess his passing skills are well practiced. He was again the points
> >> leader in his age group of 41-43.
>
> > You're so full of shit. Anyone at the expert or pro level doesn't ride
> > in
> > age groups so small. That's beginner shit.
>
> > Greg
>
> If you say so. Perhaps you should notify all mountain bike racers in
> Florida. North Carolina, Georgia, Utah, and Arizona are other places he's
> raced. They may be different. I'm no expert in the matter. I barely
> qualify as rider, and surely not racer.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm curious, if you "barely qualify as rider, and surely not racer",
how you can be so sure Scott isn't a racer?

------------------

How would I know? I just ducked in here out of the cold. I guess Scott
will tell me if he thinks I need to know. Are you a racer?

TM

"Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhammond@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "TM" <lkjd@lkjk.com> wrote in message news:EMXqj.1$RI.0@newsfe06.lga...
>>
>> "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhammond@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:61180nF1skpm9U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> -----------------------
>>>
>>> My son is the racer, or was. He was leading in class points before a
>>> recent race. The promoter decided late in the game to add a Short Track
>>> race. One mass start was a fustercluck, but my son worked his way
>>> through until a backmarker crowded him off the track and out of the
>>> race. My son lost it and tackled the guy at the end of the race, but it
>>> was broken up by others before a punch was thrown. He was disqualified
>>> from the race and the series, as well as every race the promoter runs -
>>> which is most of the races on the lower right coast and Florida where he
>>> lives. My son has effectively retired from racing. Oh, for the days of
>>> AJ Foyt the pit brawler. Dale Earnhart was no slouch either. Oh well,
>>> these are the days of political correctness, I guess. He should have
>>> kissed and made up.
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like the promoter did everyone a favor. If he wants to 'tackle',
>> he should play football. Everyone else showed up to race bikes and go
>> home.
>>
>> Slower riders are a part of the game from beginner to pro and it is
>> always the responsibility of the faster rider to make sure the pass goes
>> smoothly. It's a skill that every successful racer has developed and your
>> son should as well.
>
> He's ridden competitively for 12+ years, and last year turned Pro, so I
> guess his passing skills are well practiced. He was again the points
> leader in his age group of 41-43. He's ranked as high as 10th in the
> nation. He hollered out, "Passing on your left" and at first the other
> rider moved to the right - then suddenly swerved back left as my son began
> his pass.
>

Oh. You got some work to do there, Dad. At his age and level of
competition he needs to understand that no one cares about the results.
It's all about the joys of being fit and able to compete and get to the
STARTING line not the FINISH line.

DanKMTB@gmail.com

On Feb 8, 7:01*pm, "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <DanK...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d989b973-0390-4442-b71c-096ab8be5b7f@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 8, 3:18 pm, "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "G.T." <getne...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:13qpctef3o6ot49@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > > Seth Hammond wrote:
> > >> "TM" <l...@lkjk.com> wrote in messagenews:EMXqj.1$RI.0@newsfe06.lga....
> > >>> "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >>>news:61180nF1skpm9U1@mid.individual.net...
> > >>>> -----------------------
>
> > >>>> My son is the racer, or was. He was leading in class points before a
> > >>>> recent race. The promoter decided late in the game to add a Short
> > >>>> Track race. One mass start was a fustercluck, but my son worked his
> > >>>> way through until a backmarker crowded him off the track and out of
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> race. My son lost it and tackled the guy at the end of the race, but
> > >>>> it
> > >>>> was broken up by others before a punch was thrown. He was
> > >>>> disqualified
> > >>>> from the race and the series, as well as every race the promoter
> > >>>> runs -
> > >>>> which is most of the races on the lower right coast and Florida where
> > >>>> he lives. My son has effectively retired from racing. Oh, for the
> > >>>> days
> > >>>> of AJ Foyt the pit brawler. Dale Earnhart was no slouch either. Oh
> > >>>> well, these are the days of political correctness, I guess. He should
> > >>>> have kissed and made up.
>
> > >>> Sounds like the promoter did everyone a favor. If he wants to
> > >>> 'tackle',
> > >>> he should play football. Everyone else showed up to race bikes and go
> > >>> home.
>
> > >>> Slower riders are a part of the game from beginner to pro and it is
> > >>> always the responsibility of the faster rider to make sure the pass
> > >>> goes
> > >>> smoothly. It's a skill that every successful racer has developed and
> > >>> your son should as well.
>
> > >> He's ridden competitively for 12+ years, and last year turned Pro, soI
> > >> guess his passing skills are well practiced. He was again the points
> > >> leader in his age group of 41-43.
>
> > > You're so full of shit. Anyone at the expert or pro level doesn't ride
> > > in
> > > age groups so small. That's beginner shit.
>
> > > Greg
>
> > If you say so. Perhaps you should notify all mountain bike racers in
> > Florida. North Carolina, Georgia, Utah, and Arizona are other places he's
> > raced. They may be different. I'm no expert in the matter. I barely
> > qualify as rider, and surely not racer.- Hide quoted text -
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>
> I'm curious, if you "barely qualify as rider, and surely not racer",
> how you can be so sure Scott isn't a racer?
>
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>
> How would I know? *I just ducked in here out of the cold. *I guess Scott
> will tell me if he thinks I need to know. *Are you a racer?- Hide quotedtext -
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You're the one who said, and I quote: "However, among the several
things
you ignored or brushed off was my asking opinions of *racers* which
you
clearly are not. Back to Spartacus with you. Good luck. "

My point was that you had just ducked in out of the cold, and clearly
stated that Scott, a racer, is not a racer. He already did let you
know, by the way. Regarding your son, I can understand why he would
have done what he did. I have, in my day, been thrown out of not only
a tournament, but a particular series of tournaments, for life for a
physical foul. I was angry about something my opponent did that I
considered cheap, that was going to interfere with my standing in the
tournament and not his. I kicked him too hard. At the time, I was as
mad at the judges as I was at the kid I was fighting. In retrospect,
in response to his lack of sportsmanship I lost my cool and acted
outside of good form and sportsmanship. I was thrown out, and I
deserved it. It's unfortunate that your son, who made his way to the
expert class, will have less places to race. However, shit happens,
and he can't blame anyone but himself.