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Old 04-03.-2008, 06:54 AM   #76
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No, you didn't because drafting off of riders from a separate race is usually considered cheating and would subject you to disqualification.
Hey, that's good to know! Now I'm glad I didn't do it.
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Old 06-03.-2008, 09:45 PM   #77
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KP....................265W.......48.5kg.... 5.46W/kg(olympic bound female MTBer)
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W......69kg......5.10 W/kg
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.81W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
rmur(Mar.08)....410W......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PSUcycling..........310W.......68kg......4.56w/kg (cat 1,Tx, peak in april, 320w in '07)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg......4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
waterrockets.......335W.......80.9kg....4.14W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
No1kung1..........294W.....77kg.........3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik...............250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek..............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)

Been a long time goal to get through that 5W/kg barrier

(btw: FTP based on a 40min effort, turbo, time trial position, calibrated SRM Pro cranks, no taper (2hrs @ 305W night before). Weight is morning weight averaged over a week. Historically for me, power for a 30min maximal turbo effort, tapered, is equivalent to power in a 40kmTT)
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Old 06-03.-2008, 10:51 PM   #78
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Quick idea: Wouldn't it be much better if we created a poll where riders could select their power, mass, another other simple options like category of racer, age, and type of riding (mountain or road).

I think it would work much better than constantly compiling rider information page after page.

Of course I think you lose the ability to view who the data belongs to, but I'm interested in the distribution of information anyway.
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Old 06-03.-2008, 11:22 PM   #79
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KP....................265W.......48.5kg.... 5.46W/kg(olympic bound female MTBer)
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W......69kg......5.10 W/kg
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.81W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
rmur(Mar.08)....410W......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PSUcycling..........310W.......68kg......4.56w/kg (cat 1,Tx, peak in april, 320w in '07)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg......4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
waterrockets.......335W.......80.9kg....4.14W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
No1kung1..........294W.....77kg.........3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik...............250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek..............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)

Been a long time goal to get through that 5W/kg barrier

(btw: FTP based on a 40min effort, turbo, time trial position, calibrated SRM Pro cranks, no taper (2hrs @ 305W night before). Weight is morning weight averaged over a week. Historically for me, power for a 30min maximal turbo effort, tapered, is equivalent to power in a 40kmTT)

and who says attention to detail is a bad thing! Great progress Mark-ster .
that's what this thread is all about - progress and motivation!
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Old 07-03.-2008, 04:30 AM   #80
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Hey, that's good to know! Now I'm glad I didn't do it.
For the future, if you are going to race more, you should reasonably familiar with the basic rules. You don't have to memorize all of the rules, but know the main ones. If you're in the USA, go here:

http://www.usacycling.org/forms/RdTrkCx_rulebook.pdf

Section 3 is most relevant. Especially important: things like the basic crit rules (when you can work with riders on other laps, free laps for mishaps, etc.), the RR rules (about pace cars, mixing in other fields, etc.) and the TT rules (how to overtake someone without drafting them) come to mind off the top of my head.

BTW - pleading ignorance of the rules is rarely looked upon with pity by my local officials, probably yours too.
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Old 13-03.-2008, 12:53 AM   #81
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KP....................265W.......48.5kg.... 5.46W/kg(olympic bound female MTBer)
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W......69kg......5.10 W/kg
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.81W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PSUcycling..........315W.......67kg......4.70w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg......4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
waterrockets.......335W.......80.9kg....4.14W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
No1kung1.............294W......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
Millzebub..............310W......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik................250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)

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Old 14-03.-2008, 03:03 AM   #82
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KP....................265W.......48.5kg.... 5.46W/kg(olympic bound female MTBer)
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W......69kg......5.10 W/kg
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.81W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PSUcycling..........315W.......67kg......4.70w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg......4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
No1kung1.............294W......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
Millzebub..............310W......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik................250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)

still gaining a bit
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Old 21-03.-2008, 12:48 AM   #83
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update again...

KP....................265W.......48.5kg.... 5.46W/kg(olympic bound female MTBer)
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Markster............344W......71kg.......4.85W/kg
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.81W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (cat 1,Tx, peak in ~april)
rmur(Mar.08)....410W......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg......4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
waterrockets.......335W.......80.9kg....4.14W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
No1kung1..........294W.....77kg.........3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik...............250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek..............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)
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update again...

KP....................265W.......48.5kg.... 5.46W/kg(olympic bound female MTBer)
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Markster............344W......71kg.......4.85W/kg
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.81W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (cat 1,Tx, peak in ~april)
rmur(Mar.08)....410W......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg......4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
waterrockets.......335W.......80.9kg....4.14W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
No1kung1..........294W.....77kg.........3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik...............250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek..............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)

keep up the good work ! But you didn't copy the latest list when you posted. Could you correct that please?
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keep up the good work ! But you didn't copy the latest list when you posted. Could you correct that please?


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KP....................265W.......48.5kg.... 5.46W/kg(olympic bound female MTBer)
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W......69kg......5.10 W/kg
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.81W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg......4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
No1kung1.............294W......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
Millzebub..............310W......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik................250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)
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Can't wait for the weather to improve so I can get some time on the road....

12 - 23 cm of snow for tomorrow....

KP....................265W.......48.5kg.... 5.46W/kg(olympic bound female MTBer)
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W......69kg......5.10 W/kg
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.81W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg......4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
Hammertoe.......242W......63kg......3.84W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
No1kung1.............294W......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
Millzebub..............310W......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik................250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)
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Old 30-03.-2008, 03:26 PM   #87
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6 weeks of training ....FTP +13 but did not lose the weight I was hoping to lose -2lbs

KP....................265W.......48.5kg.... 5.46W/kg(olympic bound female MTBer)
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W......69kg......5.10 W/kg
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.81W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg......4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
Hammertoe.......242W......63kg......3.84W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
No1kung1.............294W......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
Millzebub..............310W......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik................250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)
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KP....................265W.......48.5kg.... 5.46W/kg(olympic bound female MTBer)
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W......69kg......5.10 W/kg
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.81W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg......4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
Hammertoe.......242W......63kg......3.84W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
No1kung1.............294W......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
Millzebub..............310W......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik................250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg
Tyson.................315W......73kg........4.3W/Kg
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The above slightly out of date, but will test again in June - anticipate it to be nearer 330W. Weight expected to drop dramatically in April/May ( Very long in the tooth recreational rider)
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KP....................265W.......48.5kg.... 5.46W/kg(olympic bound female MTBer)
Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg...5.22 W/kg
Markster............352W......69kg......5.10 W/kg
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.81W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........322W.......67kg......4.80w/kg (26,cat 1,Tx)
rmur(Mar.08).......410W.......86kg......4.77 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
Tyson.................315W......73kg........4.3W/Kg (Sillyoldtwit)
strader...............285W.......66.5kg......4.28W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
waterrockets.......345W.......80.9kg....4.26W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
Hammertoe..........242W......63kg......3.84W/kg (middle aged, well marbled, hill climber)
No1kung1.............294W......77kg.......3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
Millzebub..............310W......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik................250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek...............243W.......85kg.......2.86W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg


Now Tyson you know better than getting things out of order. That FTP improvement is sensational, well done buddy.
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The book was a collaboration, there's a lot of places where Hunter and Coggan don't necessarily see eye to eye. Based on Andy's comments here and elsewhere the 20 minute * 0.95 protocol(and don't skip the pre fatigue steps before the actual test) represent a method Hunter likes. FWIW my FTP has historically come closer to 0.98 * 20 minute MMP based on actual time trials, Monod tests and other methods on that list. That 3% difference in estimates doesn't sound like much but it's the difference between an FTP of ~295 watts and ~305 watts based on 310 for 20 minutes. Yeah 10 watts isn't going to make or break my training but it starts to matter as important time trials approach and I want to plan my pacing.

I'm with rmur, tracking long interval power is just part of training so that method doesn't require any special days set aside to test.

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But don't you think that you should set aside, as part of your training, a time to actually test?

The reason I bring this up is that after I left cycling for a decade or so, I ventured off into motorsports. Time was actually set aside for testing in addition to race time. You find out, in a controlled environment, exactly where you're at... You map out your year in advance and find a weekend or two during racing season to actually devote time to monitoring progress from work carried out on engine development, chassis and suspension work. If I'd broken this down whilst bike racing and had the tools that were available today then training would have been so much easier. Relying on results to guage training progress isn't alway the most accurate means available.
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