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17-01.-2008, 03:06 AM	#76
helmutRoole2 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: usa Posts: 1,895	Re: Bizarre interview with FL Here's what I'm going through. I just posted it on a legal forum: I live on Miami Beach, on the north end in a modest 2/1. I bought my condo two years ago. I negotiated a storage unit with the condo purchase. It is in the contract documents that I signed with the developer. It is a large storage unit that can hold two bicycles and two surf kayaks. It was an important aspect of the purchase. Yesterday the developer informed me that I needed to move all my belongings from my storage unit because it was not in compliance with the city fire code (the storage unit, not my belongings) and he needed to sealed it to avoid being fined. He said, after I moved everything out we could discuss a "fair market value" for the storage unit and he would compensate me accordingly. I have not moved anything nor do I plan to. He indicated that he would seal the storage unit with my belongings inside it. Of the building's six units, the developer owns five. He said the building will be condemned if I don't comply with his wishes. Currently I'm $50k upside down in my mortgage, so I don't really care if the building is condemned. I looked online and he will be fined $5,000/infraction starting Jan. 24 and $1,000 every day after. Since I bought the condo with the storage unit, if he now can NOT deliver the storage unit, isn't he in breach of contract? Additionally, since he's facing fines for every day he is not in compliance, don't I have him over a barrel? Can't I name my price? He is the condo association president. Is it possible that he can take my storage unit and pay me what he thinks is a fair market value? Also, doesn't the bank own much of the storage unit? Can I even sell it if I wanted to? __________________ "Bait in 08" --nns1400

17-01.-2008, 04:10 AM

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Re: Bizarre interview with FL

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Speaking of ridiculous lawsuits, is anyone aware of what happened to the ones filed by Josh Hancock's father? For those who are unaware of this case, Josh Hancock was a baseball player, who drove his SUV at twice the legal blood alcohol limit (and speeding and using his cell phone and not wearing a seat belt) and died in a crash with a tow truck which was there to tow out a stalled car. The father sued the restaurant for serving Josh drinks, sued the owner of the car that broke down for negligent maintenance, and sued the towing truck company for failing to tow the stalled car on time.

hancock's father later (very soon, actually) withdrew the lawsuits. public opinion dogpiling is what swayed him, i believe.

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17-01.-2008, 04:16 AM

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Re: Bizarre interview with FL

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hancock's father later (very soon, actually) withdrew the lawsuits. public opinion dogpiling is what swayed him, i believe.

That's good to know. Thanks for the update!

22-01.-2008, 06:08 AM	#79
helmutRoole2 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: usa Posts: 1,895	Re: Bizarre interview with FL Here's the latest installment: http://velonews.com/race/int/articles/13939.0.html He seems a very bitter man, and from some of his statements, it sounds like he's willing to bend the rules so long as they're not broken. Snap! What was that? Landis broke another rule. __________________ "Bait in 08" --nns1400

22-01.-2008, 06:45 AM

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Re: Bizarre interview with FL

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Originally Posted by helmutRoole2

Here's the latest installment: http://velonews.com/race/int/articles/13939.0.html

That can't be a VN interview! There were actually good, pointed questions there and everytime Landis brought up some stupid point the author called him on it (e.g. that Sevilla is in limbo, that Hamilton is being treated unfairly, etc.).

22-01.-2008, 06:50 AM

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Re: Bizarre interview with FL

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Originally Posted by helmutRoole2

Here's the latest installment: http://velonews.com/race/int/articles/13939.0.html

He seems a very bitter man, and from some of his statements, it sounds like he's willing to bend the rules so long as they're not broken.

Snap!

What was that?

Landis broke another rule.

"very bitter?" that is an understatement. That guy is stark raving crazy. IMO it is directly linked to the effects of denial. He screams of someone who believes he did not dope because he was justified in doping because everyone else did it. He thinks he is innocent because of the overall circumstance, not because he is actually innocent. He knows deep down he did it, he simply thinks he was justified and therefore innocent in the bigger scheme. He will become a very dangerous person to himself and those around him as this goes on. I say that with no glee, just experience dealing with people in similar situations.

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22-01.-2008, 07:03 AM

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Re: Bizarre interview with FL

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Originally Posted by helmutRoole2

(In Yoda's voice) Much anger in him.

Here is a quote of FL:
"<snip> He (Steve Johnson) explained that USA Cycling is not responsible for deciding [a sentence], they are only responsible for enforcing it. That means that had he paid attention, and made the decision that that was the wrong outcome, he was not under any obligation to enforce it. It's evident in the way the Spanish federation has dealt with Iban Mayo, where the UCI just goes around shopping for test results that they like.

The Spanish federation decided we're not going to enforce that, sorry. That's what Steve Johnson could have done - had he been astute enough to pay attention and intelligent enough to understand it. It's possible he's not smart enough to understand the science. But in that case he shouldn't be in charge of USA Cycling."

Now, that is an interesting interpretation! You don't like the outcome? Just don't enforce it! And comparing his case and Mayo's case is like comparing apples to oranges.

So basically, FL is very bitter about not being able to become director of Rock Racing?

22-01.-2008, 07:25 AM

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Re: Bizarre interview with FL

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So basically, FL is very bitter about not being able to become director of Rock Racing?

Or bitter because other dopers like Armstrong and Mayo were protected while he is not.

Only things that would have made the interview better would have been the guy asking him about the Andreau/Vaughters TM or the story of Armstrong dumping his blood down the sink. Naturally no truth would have been possible, but the answers would have probably been interesting.

22-01.-2008, 08:04 AM

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Re: Bizarre interview with FL

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You know, I have to take some credit for that. I've know this journalist for a six or seven years now. He printed a story about a rider on HealthNet who tested positive for clomid. The rider's point was, clomid is an infertility drug and what point would it serve for an athlete to use it. The fact is, clomid is used by athletes to recover their natural testosterone production after it's been suppressed from using anabolic steroids and exogenous testosterone. I e-mailed him on it and provided him with links to educate himself on performance enhancing substances. He deleted the athlete's statement and left it at "tested positive for clomid." Since then he's been reluctant to believe the crap some of these guys spew.

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22-01.-2008, 08:14 AM	#85
poulidor Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,084	Re: Bizarre interview with FL An other point about the evil dopers... some of them were collecting the contaminated supplements to be able eventually to provide a good explanation of their futur positive tests.... "When you dope focusing is important " Lance Armstrong

22-01.-2008, 08:21 AM

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Re: Bizarre interview with FL

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There's a ton of stuff he could have asked (that Floyd probably would have refused to answer), but the journalist has to be a little careful, since he needs to get other riders to talk to him in the future. If it had been a full-on attack, no rider would want to be interviewed by him. I'm a little amazed that a rider is agreeing to an interview like this with the CAS proceedings two months away. You have to wonder if Mr. Suh was consulted about this.

22-01.-2008, 10:47 AM

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Re: Bizarre interview with FL

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Originally Posted by helmutRoole2

Here's what I'm going through. I just posted it on a legal forum:

I live on Miami Beach, on the north end in a modest 2/1.

I bought my condo two years ago. I negotiated a storage unit with the condo purchase. It is in the contract documents that I signed with the developer. It is a large storage unit that can hold two bicycles and two surf kayaks. It was an important aspect of the purchase.

Yesterday the developer informed me that I needed to move all my belongings from my storage unit because it was not in compliance with the city fire code (the storage unit, not my belongings) and he needed to sealed it to avoid being fined. He said, after I moved everything out we could discuss a "fair market value" for the storage unit and he would compensate me accordingly.

I have not moved anything nor do I plan to. He indicated that he would seal the storage unit with my belongings inside it.

Of the building's six units, the developer owns five. He said the building will be condemned if I don't comply with his wishes. Currently I'm $50k upside down in my mortgage, so I don't really care if the building is condemned.

I looked online and he will be fined $5,000/infraction starting Jan. 24 and $1,000 every day after.

Since I bought the condo with the storage unit, if he now can NOT deliver the storage unit, isn't he in breach of contract?

Additionally, since he's facing fines for every day he is not in compliance, don't I have him over a barrel? Can't I name my price?

He is the condo association president. Is it possible that he can take my storage unit and pay me what he thinks is a fair market value?

Also, doesn't the bank own much of the storage unit? Can I even sell it if I wanted to?

Surely you both would agree in writing over the compensation amount before you move your stuff out? That seems like a reasonable request.

But if you own the space...why is it him who is being dealt with by the authorities? And him who will be fined? Doesn't that imply that he owns the space?

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22-01.-2008, 11:02 AM	#88
TheDarkLord Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,840	Re: Bizarre interview with FL Also funny in FL's interview is how he refers to team High Road as team High Horse! Intentional? Or is he just not paying attention?

22-01.-2008, 12:35 PM

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Re: Bizarre interview with FL

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Cyclingheroes, would you ask these questions?

22-01.-2008, 11:36 PM

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Re: Bizarre interview with FL

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With condos, there's always two owners. The condo association, in this case owned by the developer, owns the structure, the "home" owner owns the space inside. So, he's responsible for the structure. And even if he wasn't, he's still responsible for building it to code, so he's gets the short end either way.

I talked with a lawyer. He figures the space's value like this: (40 years)*(rent for comparable storage unit on the beach)+(inconvenience of not having my storage unit under my living space)=$90,000-100,000.

Let him seal it.

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