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Exactly. I agree with yours and DocSpoc's comments regarding the Feds and even said so in my last post. But, I was speaking about the definition of perjury generally speaking . . . nothing about punishment, nothing about the feds and nothing about if and when punishment is stiffer. None of those things ever came out of my mouth. It's very clearly all right there for reading. ![]() |
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what is your point here? all i can think of is that you are saying that since irrelevant post are so numberous it should never be pointed out that they are irrelevant?? but you couldn't be saying that because that doesn't actually make any kind of sense.. right? so what is your point? do you have a point? ![]() |
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Dude, get a grip on life and stop taking a friggin' internet thread so seriously. Go for a bike ride or something, cause you're wound WAY TOO tight. I'm not even going to respond to your "points" (for which you've now made 3 to 5 that are completely off topic) . . . Have a nice day. |
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The thing that does make this relevent and important to clarify is that in the US context if you can get Feds interested in PEDs use, distrobution etc... you can probably twist arms a little more when cyclist, trainers, DS's etc know they have jail time haning over their heads if they don't answer questions truthfully... in these sports abritrations or even in court cases they can almost say whatever they hell they want Does the FBI investigate illegal drug trafficing (which is what this is) or is that exclusively for the DEA to investigate? Salut! |
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Last year the FBI busted a huge steroid sales ring that was selling over the Internet. A 120 people were caught.
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I think the FBI only started doing steroid cases a couple of years ago. It wasn't that long ago I read about a bust and they made the point that it was their first such investigation. Someone up high has made a decision to pursue the problem. The head of that bust of 120 is facing 15 years. That might not be such a good business to be in anymore.
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Now that government police are involved in pursuing drug taking in sports, the days of sports authorities turning the other cheek may be over.
How does the FBI prosecute though? It seems that most PED's are not illegal. They just contravene the rules of a particular sport. The Bonds/Jones busts were more about lying than drug taking. Its like they say... tell us the truth and wreck your career... or lie and we'll put you in jail and wreck your career. So how do they get search warrants? Suspicion of possessing a drug without a prescription??
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Aside from the prescription issue, wire fraud, mail fraud, conspiracy, money laundering, tax evasion. I am sure it is no problem to find ways to charge people if they are really determined.
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in fact when Kelly White (100m and 200m gold medalist at world track champs) 1st got busted in a dope test... it was for a drug that has a legit use for narcolepsy (also turned out the be the masking agent for "the clear" the designer steriod she got from BALCO and ultimately tested positive for after a rival coach provided a sample of the substance to officials) and she had a prescription for that narcolepsy drug... the doctor that wrote that prescription has subsequently lost his licence to practice medicine since White or her doctor, inspite of her prescription couldn't produce any history of her narcolepsy... other atheletes also tested positive for the substance and used the narcolepsy excuse... can you imagine the whole finals in the olympics falling asleep during their race? it's kinda like how a larger percentage of pro cyclist all have asthma... yeah, right. so sure anyone, including doctors can participate in any number of illegal scemes but they also leave themselves open jail time or loss of licences just like anyone else edit - and a legit distributor has to keep records of sales, customers etc.. records that would reveal ilicit activity... why BALCO, which otherwise was a legit company had to do it's steriod sales under the radar and why Conte the CEO when to jail for illegal steriod distro and money laundering... you can't have "sale $3000 steroids to customer Barry Bonds on your records".. Last edited by doctorSpoc : 30-01.-2008 at 07:39 AM. |
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