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06-01.-2008, 10:48 AM

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Pissed on their faces? Basso was cleared by the UCI and the Italy Cycling Federation when he hired him, I'd have done the same if I had the money and a good team! Discovery was not btw the only team after him, if you can dig deeper you'll see witch teams were so pissed that he actually went for DC.. Lefevere shouting at JB whilst his dope program prodused multiple victories for his team, wonder why no one talks about that...

I love cycling, after following it for many years I changed my training from running to riding, but since I live in Denmark now, it feels like I'm having headwind all the time, (Denmark is like a pancake, flat, flat, flat and very WINDY) it's awful with a bike, so I rather run when it's really windy...

Bambs, you've spent too much time on DPF...Disco Propaganda Forum.....

Don't worry...we can cure you here.

I like the Danes...the culture there's a bit different from the US.

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06-01.-2008, 11:38 AM	#17
bambi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 42	Re: Bruyneel Admits Doping at Disco...kind of? Thanks Cranky, but I don't think I need to be cured! Nice to have a civil answer, if you ever come to Scandinavia, email me. I still wonder why Bruyneel is the only target on this forum... Cheers, Bambi

06-01.-2008, 11:57 AM

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Thanks Cranky, but I don't think I need to be cured!

Nice to have a civil answer, if you ever come to Scandinavia, email me.

I still wonder why Bruyneel is the only target on this forum...

Cheers, Bambi

I think if you stay a bit longer, you'd see that there is a wide spread of different targets that are unfortunately regularly provided for us to shoot at. There is no shortage of rotten fodder emanating from multiple sources in pro cycling currently.

We need something substantially positive to happen to plug this leaking ship.

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06-01.-2008, 02:22 PM

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Here is another quote: The Belgian, who has eight Tour de France victories on his palmarès as directeur sportif, is confident that he won't be equally fooled by Andreas Klöden, despite rumours that the German's T-Mobile Team may have been involved in blood-doping during the 2006 Tour de France. "Klöden told me that he had nothing to do with it. As far as I know he has never been involved in a doping affair," stated Bruyneel, who was required by the UCI to take over all existing Astana contracts when he took over the team. "We are heavily armed against possible matters from the past. If it appears that Klöden was involved in something, then we will react appropriately."

I wonder what he means by "armed against possible matters from the past". What about the shadow of OP over Contador?

I think it means that Kloden is utterly farked. Didn't Contador trash him as well in an interview a few weeks ago? The only reason I can imagine why Kloden isn't leaving is that he cannot for the hell of it find another team. Ironically, I can imagine that Kloden most likely will race totally clean this year. Why? Because he has no backing from Astana whatsoever. Neither gear nor protection. The only way for him to make money until the end of his career will be to stay clean at Astana and not to give them any reason to get fired. That's why he won't confess any T Mobile schenanigans either. If he gets the nod for the TdF, it will be very interesting to see him perform.

06-01.-2008, 05:52 PM

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Re: Bruyneel Admits Doping at Disco...kind of?

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Klodi should slap a palmfull of Androgel on Contador.

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06-01.-2008, 05:59 PM	#21
Bro Deal Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Resting by the Tumtum tree Posts: 6,320	Re: Bruyneel Admits Doping at Disco...kind of? More from Bruyneel: Moreover, the Belgian is not afraid of ghosts from the Kazakh team's past. "I have certain written guarantees. I will do it my way. If I don't succeed, then I will make the decision to leave. I don't think it will come to that. This must be a team with the 'Johan Bruyneel' philosophy." The Bruyneel philosophy? Take as much dope as possible? It's only doping if you get caught? __________________ "You are like the wind and I like the lion. You form the tempest. The sand stings my eyes and the ground is parched. I roar in defiance but you do not hear. But between us there is a difference. I, like the lion, must remain in my place. While you like the wind will never know yours." -- Mulay Hamid El Raisuli, Lord of the Riff, Sultan to the Berbers, Last of the Barbary Pirates

06-01.-2008, 06:51 PM	#22
italiano Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: With my kids if not biking or at my computer Posts: 214	Re: Bruyneel Admits Doping at Disco...kind of? Prediction: Kloeden will not be sacked and will leave on his condizion on end season. He doped all right but JB would not keep him in the first place over the great selezion he already posseded.. Something not said... __________________ For inches and centimetres, let fools contend." -- Damian Grammaticus

07-01.-2008, 09:54 AM

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Re: Bruyneel Admits Doping at Disco...kind of?

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Exactly - my perspective from my brief time here is that no target is spared, for Bambi to suggest that only Bruyneel is a target here means she hasn't read through most of the other threads.

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07-01.-2008, 09:56 AM	#24
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07-01.-2008, 10:19 AM	#25
Bro Deal Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Resting by the Tumtum tree Posts: 6,320	Re: Bruyneel Admits Doping at Disco...kind of? What are the chances Klodi will get a spot on Astana's Tour squad? It looks like Bruyneel brought in riders to ride the Tour, and the rest of the squad will be left to ride whatever the A team doesn't want to ride.. __________________ "You are like the wind and I like the lion. You form the tempest. The sand stings my eyes and the ground is parched. I roar in defiance but you do not hear. But between us there is a difference. I, like the lion, must remain in my place. While you like the wind will never know yours." -- Mulay Hamid El Raisuli, Lord of the Riff, Sultan to the Berbers, Last of the Barbary Pirates

07-01.-2008, 11:10 AM

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Re: Bruyneel Admits Doping at Disco...kind of?

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What are the chances Klodi will get a spot on Astana's Tour squad? It looks like Bruyneel brought in riders to ride the Tour, and the rest of the squad will be left to ride whatever the A team doesn't want to ride..

Astana in disarray ?

07-01.-2008, 09:29 PM

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Maybe he'll get to ride the Tour of America...

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08-01.-2008, 12:05 AM

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...and whats the deal with Kloden ? Bruyneel has already sidelined him... its obvious he doesn't want Kloden on the team but he has to honor the contract... you think Kloden will call Jan and tell him what Bruyneel had been up to all those years ?

Excellent point. That could be the _root of it.

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08-01.-2008, 12:33 AM

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Klodi should slap a palmfull of Androgel on Contador.

Yeah, just kinda slap him on the back before an alpine stage and say, "Good luck out here today."

Look, there's no way JB is going to run anything but a systematically doped team. Now, that's not to say that everyone on the team will get the systematic treatment. It'll be a core of riders and everyone else will be kept on the outs. Like WBT said, that's likely why JB is having problems with Kloden being on the team. There's no way JB will let him in on that inner circle. It's the riders who are on the outs who JB will have to worry about.

Astana brought JB on to win the Tour and this is how he gets it done. They knew that when they hired him. Disco: eight tour victories and never a positive (there was one). They're betting on his ability to not get caught and still run a doped team. Disco placed the same bet. Remember, Armstrong didn't like JB before he became the DS at Disco.

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