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Old 16-12.-2007, 06:28 PM   #16
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The questions I would like to turn myself to society with are like these ones:
-are cyclists respected in your country for mantaining ecology by using bike as basic means of transportation?
-do cyclists in your country feel hard about standing for their rights on the road?

Thank you beforehand for your answers!

I think in the U.S. a cyclist dressed in lycra is viewed by most people as someone is doing this for fitness. There is not the implication that concern for the environment is involved. A rider who is commuting in regular clothes will be suspected of being too poor to drive a car. The general population view people who commute by bicycle by choice as a little crazy. It is definitely not normal.
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Old 16-12.-2007, 11:56 PM   #17
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As a cyclist who does about 20,000 kms per year on his bike I would like to ask for a great hand to come down from the sky and scoop up the precious few idiots who spoil the roads for everyone.

I see or am just about the first to arrive on at least one serious traffic accident a month and I really really am utterly fed up with it. Sometimes I would like the ability to look the other way and completely not notice a car in a ditch for example, and leave people injured and alone whilst waiting for the emergency services arrive, like so many other road users seem able to do. It would be cheaper on cycling clothes too.

Only last week I was physically attacked by a drunken driver who first tried to use his car to knock me off my bicycle for no better reason than I was a cyclist on my own, in the dark, on a relatively lonely stretch of road.

Yes, to commute regularly by bicycle one does have to be more than a little crazy, and the reactions of a Ninja cat on it's last life.
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I ride for fitness and enjoyment. Where I am (KY, USA) it isn't practical to commute on a bike due to the distance I have to travel and the heavy traffic. Not that the drivers are intentionally hostile, they just don't pay attention. It's too dangerous, sooner or later your luck will run out. I'd love to commute on my bike, if there was a reasonably safe way to do it. About 21 miles each way, so it's definitely doable if it weren't for the careless motorists and lack of bike lanes.

I have noticed bike lanes beginning to spring up in the last few years, and there's a bike trail being built to run the circumference of Louisville, over 100 miles. So it's getting better, but still not to the point where cycling as commuting would be practical. A couple of guys that I work with do commute on cycles, but they're very devoted and don't have families to support (a big factor when you think of injury or worse).

I spent a wonderful week in Holland. Cycling paradise. Everyone rides bikes over there, motorists are friendly, plenty of bike lanes, and the high cost of petrol is a good motivator. Cheap beer and excellent coffee, too.
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In Rome cycling is purely a fitness/sport thing. Only those too poor to own a car commute by bike, and it is definitely not fashionable to give up your car.

Your car, as a male, is viewed as an extension of your penis. A turbo-charged vehicle seems to equate (in the minds of many of my countrymen) in the feeling that you have artifically enhanced your weewee.

Unfortunate, really. Everyone knows that riding a De Rosa makes your weewee bigger and all the hot babes desperate to spend quality time with you.

Having said that, there are a number of the consular roads around Rome that are 'known' to be places where people ride a lot, so we tend to have to deal with the usual 10% of assholes on the road, no more or no less than anywhere else, I suppose.
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As for respect, who the hell knows. I didn't know that cyclists deserve any more respect than anyone else.

Sounds quite wise, indeed. But you might be interested to learn the fact that cyclists in Norway are respected presicely more "than anyone else".

Well, guys, I would like to thank you for these interesting answers you have given and my question for this time is:
What is the situation about car-free zones in your area? D'you have many or little of them?
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I see. For your case I might paraphrase: In which states are the cyclists more respected and in which less?
I can't really speak to other states, but I have to agree with most of those above - generally, there are SOME urban areas that have a pro-cycling mindset. Once you hit the suburbs and country, I would think it gets a bit dicey.

Here in Wisconsin, in Milwaukee and Madison, I've always felt that cyclists are regarded no more or less highly than others, but that people are AWARE of cycling culture and give cyclists the same respect as those on four wheels (we also have a big motorcycle culture due to Harley, which may or may not help). Once you're out of those two urban areas, I'd bet that the respect for cyclists takes a nosedive.
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