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05-12.-2007, 04:21 PM
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It could be that Bruyneel and Armstrong are very similar in the way they deal with riders. If Hincapie is getting older and may not be as useful, fuck him. He's gone. Loyalty and friendship count for nothing.
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05-12.-2007, 04:42 PM
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Re: Deutsche Telekom ends sponsorship
Perharps its very simple, maybe TMob offered a lot more money than he could ever get with Astana. He is at the end of his career so now or never to rake in the big bucks.
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05-12.-2007, 04:46 PM
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That would make sense. It seems that TWS has a history of underpaying their riders. That is why FLandis left.
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05-12.-2007, 04:48 PM
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05-12.-2007, 07:37 PM
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Is Hincapie's wife German? It would be a good reason to set a deal with a German team and to prepare his reconversion...
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05-12.-2007, 07:47 PM
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05-12.-2007, 09:01 PM
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Yes and Lance thinks she's an arsehole cos she's French......... Lance never gets invited to dinner........ |
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06-12.-2007, 01:42 AM
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Well, her marriage to Hincapie was all part of the french ploy to bring Lance down. It's all part of the grand plan. |
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06-12.-2007, 03:57 AM
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She's a mole....
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08-12.-2007, 01:48 PM
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Although the university of Freiburg had a bad reputation in respect to performance enhancing drugs, former Telekom rider Bert Dietz told German TV station ARD that it was Telekom who introduced the university of Freiburg to the team.
http://www.cyclingheroes.info/id1003.html |
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08-12.-2007, 01:48 PM
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Although the university of Freiburg had a bad reputation in respect to performance enhancing drugs, former Telekom rider Bert Dietz told German TV station ARD that it was Telekom who introduced the university of Freiburg to the team.
http://www.cyclingheroes.info/id1003.html |
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21-12.-2007, 08:25 PM
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Deutsche Telekom wants to sponsor Formula One (Spy scandal... very ethical sport
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21-12.-2007, 10:23 PM
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Deutsche Telekom - being the huge company that they are - actively review marketing opportunities. I'm not surprised that they're looking at F1 - given F1's huge TV viewer numbers. To even get a foothold on the sponsorship ladder at F1 costs huge money. Obviously DT have very deep pockets.
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21-12.-2007, 10:40 PM
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21-12.-2007, 11:34 PM
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I know you're joking (EU laws wouldn't allow it for a start), but the connection is an interesting one to make. F1 clung on to tobacco sponsorship until the end in Europe, worried about the losses to its income stream from a ban. In the UK the Ecclestone scandal was one of the big early damages to the Labour government. The reality has worked out completely different to the fears though: there are a lot of blue-chip companies that are much happier to be associated with F1 now that they won't be sharing space on the same cars as tobacco adverts. It's natural that Deutsche Telekom would be attracted now. The only question will be how they would get involved. The big German linked teams are McLaren-Mercedes (already sponsored by rival Vodafone) and BMW-Williams (main sponsor: AT&T). Among the German teams that leaves Sauber-BMW, but they're a 2nd/3rd tier team (and there may be behind-the-scenes deals between the BMW teams to prevent any conflicting sponsor arrangements.) You can see that there is a strong link between F1 and telecommunications: I guess it's a sport for people that like the latest gadgets and high technology. Perhaps the lesson for cycling is that you shouldn't be afraid of losing some 'dodgy' sponsors because the pay-off is that other sponsors will come into the clean vacuum. TMob aren't 'dodgy' in the way that tobacco-manufacturers are, but perhaps they're dodgy in the sense of 'win at all costs'. Other sponsors might be brought in by appealing to the concepts of 'fair play' and 'sportsmanship'. There must be many companies that want to associate themselves with those values. Last edited by rob of the og : 21-12.-2007 at 11:57 PM. Reason: my memory of F1 sponsors was slightly awry - did some research and corrected - general principle of post unchanged. |
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