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Old 22-11.-2007, 09:05 PM   #46
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PeteSig wrote:
> "Zebee Johnstone" wrote:
>> In aus.bicycle on Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:39:44 -0800 (PST)
>> lemmiwinks.au@gmail.com <lemmiwinks.au@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think if you have mudguards (particularly full length) and a rack on
>>> your bike, you're not a cyclist either.

>> Hey, can we rack up non-cyclist points?
>>
>> Recumbent - 2
>> (triathletes and electric assist get 2 as well)
>> Mudguards - 1
>> tradie shirt instead of jersey - 1
>> no idea of gruppo - 1 (although I do know some of it's SRAM and some
>> Shimano)
>> no idea how much the bike weighs - 1
>> rack and pannier - 1
>> no carbon - 1

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> Kickstand - 2
> Dynamo lightset - 1
> Rear-view mirror - 1
> Leather saddle (with springs) - 2
>
> I'm racking those points up!!
>


If you took that bike into a race I'd double the points again.
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Old 23-11.-2007, 08:45 AM   #47
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A new first for me today - I saw a bicycle with disc brakes and a kickstand.
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Old 23-11.-2007, 09:48 AM   #48
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artemidorus wrote:
> A new first for me today - I saw a bicycle with disc brakes and a
> kickstand.
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How many points for a shopping basket, if enough I might get one!

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Old 23-11.-2007, 10:19 AM   #49
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artemidorus wrote:
> A new first for me today - I saw a bicycle with disc brakes and a
> kickstand.


Getting quite common. Big W bikes now have disk brakes. Why you would want a
small disc brake, which will put serious stresses into your front wheel
spokes, when you already have a much larger disk brake (rim) which puts no
or very little stress into your spokes, is totally beyond my understanding.

Please explain the benefits of disk over rim brakes.

Theo


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Old 23-11.-2007, 11:49 AM   #50
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Theo Bekkers wrote:

> Please explain the benefits of disk over rim brakes.


1) disks do not buckle
2) greater braking effect possible
3) less susceptible to weather effect, aka water on steel.
4) greater brake pad area = less brake pad fad from heat.
5) reduced spoke breakage
6) some other piece of bullshit, since I could never afford them {:-0.

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Old 23-11.-2007, 05:49 PM   #51
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"Terryc" wrote:
> Theo Bekkers wrote:
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>> Please explain the benefits of disk over rim brakes.

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> 1) disks do not buckle
> 2) greater braking effect possible
> 3) less susceptible to weather effect, aka water on steel.
> 4) greater brake pad area = less brake pad fad from heat.
> 5) reduced spoke breakage


?? not so sure about the reduced spoke breakage

6) braking in dirty conditions doesn't wear out your rims
7) brake operation is unaffected by buckled rim
8) brake pads (tiny) will last you much longer - about 5-7000 kms, rim brake
pads can scrub out in one bad wet day's ride

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Old 23-11.-2007, 10:25 PM   #52
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PeteSig wrote:

> ?? not so sure about the reduced spoke breakage


thinking less forces, aka no or reduced braking force through the spokes.

smoother, rather than the rough/pulsed braking direct on rim as it
wobbles from buckles, jerks from crud, etc. <shrug> as I said, I was
skimming it a bit. I've never owned them.



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Old 26-11.-2007, 09:21 AM   #53
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thinking less forces, aka no or reduced braking force through the spokes.

The opposite is true - forces acting on the spokes are much greater with disc/hub brakes. It's why disc hubs have great big flanges - to reduce spoke tension during braking.
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Old 26-11.-2007, 10:33 AM   #54
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Terryc wrote:
> Theo Bekkers wrote:
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>> Please explain the benefits of disk over rim brakes.

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> 1) disks do not buckle
> 2) greater braking effect possible
> 3) less susceptible to weather effect, aka water on steel.
> 4) greater brake pad area = less brake pad fad from heat.
> 5) reduced spoke breakage
> 6) some other piece of bullshit, since I could never afford them {:-0.


1) there's a whole industry for buckled discs in cars.
2) Err, what? How? I can lock up my wheels on my rim-braked bikes, though I
try not to.
3) You have steel rims, or you have steel discs?
4) Smaller area to dissipate said heat from disc.
5) As Artimedoris said, the exact opposite is true. A disc on a radial
spoked front wheel could easily invite disaster.
6) Agreed.

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