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Old 15-11.-2007, 09:51 AM   #76
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Pathetic diversionary debating technique by trying to attack the person rather than the subject matter at hand. Ireland has nothing to do with this discussion on Dubya's war adventure. Limerickman may not even be Irish for what's it worth in this discussion.

What is really pathetic is when you respond without reading all the post.
Read msg #33 and see where Limerickman asks ndbiker why it took the US 2 years to enter the war. I didn't bring up the war ndbiker and limerickman did.

Pathetic is when someone points out that the US has meddled in the middle east since 1946 but conveninently leaves out all the other countries that have meddled in middle east since 1946.

Where did I attack Limerickman? I made no personal insults to him. And Limerickman is Irish. If you read the board you would know that he has not made it a secret. Limerickman wants to bash the US then turnabout is fair play.
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Old 15-11.-2007, 09:55 AM   #77
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Pathetic diversionary debating technique by trying to attack the person rather than the subject matter at hand. Ireland has nothing to do with this discussion on Dubya's war adventure. Limerickman may not even be Irish for what's it worth in this discussion.


I'm Irish, sogood.

But you're right about the diversionary tactic employed.
The fact is that some Americans cannot understand that they're presence in othre countries is not welcome.
They roll out WW2 - as identified by Bro - or they try to justify their countries actions by highlighting the fact that other countries did the same as they do.

No one from any of those countries are attempting to justify their countries presence in other nations.
They have probably come to realise, what some Americans fail to recognise.
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Old 15-11.-2007, 09:55 AM   #78
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Hell yeah. All of Bush's homeland security spending is a waste just for show as long as hundreds of thousands of illiegal aliens run oacros the border every year. The southern border is where some of the money currently being spent in Iraq should be going.
Hey we kind of agree on something. Even after some very out of line remarks regarding Christians. ...hey you forgot to mention that we could expand tax breaks for the residential instalation of solar and wind power . I just put on 6, 4x10' solar thermal pannels on my pool house. Add the 500 gallon storage tank and I will be up to $12,000~. I will get back about $3000 in a tax credit in April. That however is more or less the cap. No PV for me..yet. Take it easy on Christians, your starting to sound like the Klan
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So with your logic....the Irish government did not condemn the Nazis, the Irish government therefore thought the actions of the Nazis were justified.


My country's goverment didn't condemn either the Allied power or the Axis powers.
My country, as stated several times earlier, was neutral.
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I'm Irish, sogood.

But you're right about the diversionary tactic employed.
The fact is that some Americans cannot understand that they're presence in othre countries is not welcome.
They roll out WW2 - as identified by Bro - or they try to justify their countries actions by highlighting the fact that other countries did the same as they do.

No one from any of those countries are attempting to justify their countries presence in other nations.
They have probably come to realise, what some Americans fail to recognise.

Keep beating the same drum. Sogood believes you. Some people just like to bash the US at any chance they get.
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My country's goverment didn't condemn either the Allied power or the Axis powers.

Exactly.
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Old 15-11.-2007, 10:06 AM   #82
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Keep beating the same drum. Sogood believes you. Some people just like to bash the US at any chance they get.


Well.
That's what happens when you get people like you, trying to justify their countries meddling in other nations.
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They roll out WW2 - as identified by Bro - or they try to justify their countries actions by highlighting the fact that other countries did the same as they do.

The big laugh here is, given the exposé on all the unprintable human rights abuses by the US at Gutanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib prison, surrogate torture through other jurisdictions and CIA kidnapping flights, I think just about every country out there with a purported human rights problem can use exactly the same excuse to justify their action. So much for the US to lecture any other country on moral standing...
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Some people just like to bash the US at any chance they get.

You are looking for an exit strategy for your debate failure.
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You are looking for an exit strategy for your debate failure.

Oh that was a good one. Yeah that's what I'm doing.
I'm still waiting to be shown where I justified US actions.

And what failure would that be. Here where I explicitly state it would have been good for countries not to interfere. Of course we can blame everything on the US, that way no one else has to answer for their transgressions.

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It would have been a good idea if many western and eastern bloc nations not meddled in middle east affairs. Seems that the British, French, Soviets all meddled as well. The British and French were meddling way before 1946.

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Well.
That's what happens when you get people like you, trying to justify their countries meddling in other nations.

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It would have been a good idea if many western and eastern bloc nations not meddled in middle east affairs. Seems that the British, French, Soviets all meddled as well. The British and French were meddling way before 1946.

Try again.
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The big laugh here is, given the exposé on all the unprintable human rights abuses by the US at Gutanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib prison, surrogate torture through other jurisdictions and CIA kidnapping flights, I think just about every country out there with a purported human rights problem can use exactly the same excuse to justify their action. So much for the US to lecture any other country on moral standing...

You're right.The US shouldn't lecture. I know the government does though. They've been involved in enough dastardly deeds. But then, there is not one country that can lecture any other country about abuses, since they have all committed them.
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You're right.The US shouldn't lecture. I know the government does though. They've been involved in enough dastardly deeds. But then, there is not one country that can lecture any other country about abuses, since they have all committed them.

But it's the US that made moral issue a major foreign policy platform for a number of decades, yet can't live by its own word. All made worse by its citizen who tries to blindly defend that position, as if it's some God given right. As pointed out, it's a joke!
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Oh that was a good one. Yeah that's what I'm doing.
I'm still waiting to be shown where I justified US actions.

And what failure would that be. Here where I explicitly state it would have been good for countries not to interfere. Of course we can blame everything on the US, that way no one else has to answer for their transgressions.

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It would have been a good idea if many western and eastern bloc nations not meddled in middle east affairs. Seems that the British, French, Soviets all meddled as well. The British and French were meddling way before 1946.




So what other person here, from any nation you care to choose, has stated that what their country did was justified because other countries did similar things?
Can you show me one poster - who posted that sentiment?

You've tried to justify your country's actions by suggesting that other country's did similar things to your country.

That's a cop out mate.
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It would have been a good idea if many western and eastern bloc nations not meddled in middle east affairs. Seems that the British, French, Soviets all meddled as well. The British and French were meddling way before 1946.

Try again.


...........show me the poster, here, who is trying to justify western and eastern block meddling??????
Where is the post on this site, justifying their countries meddling?

The only one here trying to justify their countries meddling is you with regard to your country's meddling.
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