Evangelical Disconnect

Originally Posted by bkaapcke

Beyond the disconnect with reality, it appears we have a desperate need for, a clinging to, belief in god for it's own sake. It is so entrenched that it cannot be dislodged, now matter how much reality and logic is used. My estimate puts it on the level of an Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

The believers won't let go (Obsessive-Compulsive) and it leads them to engage with reality using other worldly assumptions (Disorder). Interestingly, like the rest of humanity, their beliefs blind them to their own evil.

This leads me to conclude that this belief doesn't improve anything at all. If we could just get them to see this, it might ilmprove the situation we all live in. But, no, there are none so blind as those who will not see.

Really; What good has christlianity done for the world? On balance, less than none. So, we are stuck with all these christians. Too bad we can't teach them any real morals. bk

Originally Posted by jhuskey

I am a willing student.
What great sacrifice or sacrifices have you made in the name of humanity this past week that you may give me direction from?
My mind is as a blank page ready to be consumed with enlightenment.
No cheap shots on the blank page, btw.

Originally Posted by bkaapcke

Beyond the disconnect with reality, it appears we have a desperate need for, a clinging to, belief in god for it's own sake. It is so entrenched that it cannot be dislodged, now matter how much reality and logic is used. My estimate puts it on the level of an Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

The believers won't let go (Obsessive-Compulsive) and it leads them to engage with reality using other worldly assumptions (Disorder). Interestingly, like the rest of humanity, their beliefs blind them to their own evil.

This leads me to conclude that this belief doesn't improve anything at all. If we could just get them to see this, it might ilmprove the situation we all live in. But, no, there are none so blind as those who will not see.

Really; What good has christlianity done for the world? On balance, less than none. So, we are stuck with all these christians. Too bad we can't teach them any real morals. bk

Originally Posted by fscyclist

I watched football and drank beer yesterday (and today). If that's not a sacrifice, I don't know what is. With all this talk of helping humanity, I may have to make this sacrifice a daily occurence.

Originally Posted by jhuskey

You da man! May I be a deciple?
I might suggest having a symbolic sacrifical lamb symbolized as pizza,ribs,shrimp,chips and a keg.
But you don't got to be a fanatic so we will will skip the Nachos.

Originally Posted by nns1400

I accept what it says is true....Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth....

Which is to say that God existed first and He is the cause of the universe. In the past, scientists thought the universe was eternal, therefore the Bible was incorrect. Since the big bang theory....it has been proven that the universe had a beginning, and therefore a cause.

As for the "literal" interpretation of the six day account...entire books have been written explaining how the original Hebrew can most definitely mean that "days" could be periods of time. So you can take still take it literally, with a bit more wisdom than saying six days equals six 24 hour days.

People who claim the earth is 6000 years old, and that this is the literal interpretation of the Bible, base that on taking genealogies listed in Genesis and extrapolating how much time was necessary to get to now. When all Biblical exegesis can show that genealogies listed in the Bible are to convey certain important pieces of information...not to be used as some kind of calendar...some generations are typically left out. And that is making a broad assumption anyway, as no one knows when said genealogies began, etc.

It's ridiculous. The Bible doesn't say how old the earth is...period. It doesn't matter. It's not a science book. The purpose of the Bible is to explain God's dealings with mankind. (I'm so sure Moses is going to record astrophysics for ancient peoples.)

Originally Posted by fscyclist

Absolutely! Open to all comers. All I ask is you donate 10% of your income to the beer fund.

Originally Posted by nns1400

In my experience, most men are willing to donate a far greater percentage of their income to that fund....

Originally Posted by bkaapcke

All the benefits of that christlian charity are swallowed up by the horrendous evils done by christlians. The balance is against you, Bill. I'm just not going to overlook all of it like many would like. This would apparently include you.

Oh, and one more thing, Bill. Is your church feeding those Africans christianity along with all that charity? If so, the charity doesn't count for much. bk

Originally Posted by bkaapcke

All the benefits of that christlian charity are swallowed up by the horrendous evils done by christlians. The balance is against you, Bill. I'm just not going to overlook all of it like many would like. This would apparently include you.

Oh, and one more thing, Bill. Is your church feeding those Africans christianity along with all that charity? If so, the charity doesn't count for much. bk

Originally Posted by fscyclist

Absolutely! Open to all comers. All I ask is you donate 10% of your income to the beer fund.

Originally Posted by jhuskey

I may be due a refund!
My advise is to not dwell on the things that you cannot change but rather to
indulge yourself in those things that make a positive difference, if only a small way.