Evangelical Disconnect

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So sorry for disagreeing, regret to see you don't formulate your feelings about my country based on fact.

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Hypnospin

iraq became an enemy of the us due to their not playing nice with the rules imposed by the world bank, imf, wto, g8, and others by exerting control of their own resources and using their own currency in place of the us-approved petro dollar.

afghanistan was slated for oil pipeline construction for black sea oil, this was planned by cheneys efforts with haliburton. when the taliban were sent packin with a lowball offer they of course declined, this put the plan on hold which created another enemy for the us. both the above are part of the 50+ year plan to maintain the wealth of us-multinational billionaire families and friends of the bush regime, the true constituents of the us gov't.

remember, when the afghanis were fighting the soviets they were noble freedom fighters. now when the same scenario has the us in the sights they are conveniently labled by the commercial media as insurgents explicitly and muslims by implication...

what would our founding fathers (in the us) be called today one wonders...

sheesh, that some would need to be set straight by the correction you offer here s-babe, shows some forget or fail to acknowlege these facts, it is as if history is being re-written to suit in real time.

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Ridiculous troll or typical ignorant liberal? you decide.

I don't think we invaded Afghanistan because we were under the impression that the 9/11 hijackers were born there rather than Saudi Arabia or Egypt. In fact I don't think their place of birth figured heavily into the decision at all.

They were members of a terrorist organization which was based in Afghanistan and was busy in Afghanistan training other terrorists. Hundreds of them.

I suppose you think it was OK for Afghanistan to host this group because they didn't like the way some business deals turned out?????

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Bro Deal

Funny how two guys from the oil business get into the Whitehouse and all the countries they attack or plan to attack have oil or access to oil. Pure coincidence, I am sure.

Yes, because rightwing nutters have always been so accurate about where the enemies in their neverending war come from. It's not like a huge proportion of them thought the hijackers were Iraqis, trained by Iraqis, or acting under Iraqi control.

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So, if not for the oil, we'd leave them alone, I guess. To train more terrorists after they killed 3000 New Yorkers.

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Bro Deal

If you oppress people all over the world then you have to expect that a few will occasionally fight back. It's the price of doing business and nothing to get worked up over.

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If we'e oppressing Egypt and Saudi Arabia, why are they our allies? me: Bro Deal:

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Bro Deal

Wow. You really are that dumb.

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I say, I did not know the Afghanis had a terror group attack the Soviet Union first, like Finland did in 1939. Thank you for clearing up that fact with your comparison.

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wolfix

I agree... It's nothing to get worked up about. Thats why several well placed nukes would not be anything to get worked up about. Of course, the downside of nukes placed there would be the damage enviromentally to the oil fields. That would be a shame.

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Crankyfeet

Yes... the ruling royal family of Saudi Arabia are allies of the US. America doesn't think it is worth standing up for freedom and democracy in Saudi Arabia since 99.9% of the populace hate America's guts.

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Bro Deal

It's always nice when the conservative whackos crawl out of the woodwork and masturbate over their thoughts of commiting crimes against humanity. World War II was supposed the end fascism. To bad it took root in America.

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wolfix

But isn't the death of people just the cost of doing business? Who said that?
Whacko ??? Interesting. This is coming from a guy who life is posting on a cycling forum. I think you need to get a life outside the computer.

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