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03-12.-2007, 03:57 PM

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All the benefits of that christlian charity are swallowed up by the horrendous evils done by christlians. The balance is against you, Bill. I'm just not going to overlook all of it like many would like. This would apparently include you.

Oh, and one more thing, Bill. Is your church feeding those Africans christianity along with all that charity? If so, the charity doesn't count for much. bk

It may be a deluded belief, and there may have been some horrendous acts done in the past in the name of any religion, and it may be a powderkeg ready to come together as one and say for instance that the world is about to end, but let's not twist facts and say that not much good is done from Christians.

Christian charity and giving is enormous and most Christains are very sympathetic to the plight of those less fortunate. It is the Christian ethos.

It is wrong to cynically undermine the good that is done under organized Christianity, just to support your argument that it is bad. Just MHO.

03-12.-2007, 06:40 PM

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All the benefits of that christlian charity are swallowed up by the horrendous evils done by christlians.

I think you need to generalize "christians" to organized religion. Religions that do not have rigid hierarchical structures or rely on individual members to do their own interpretation of beliefs seem a lot more tolerant.

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03-12.-2007, 07:25 PM

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Yes...Hinduism for one is a non-hierarchical religion. They accept that you can reach God through many paths. In fact the Hindu religion is not really one religion. Its just a collective term, that the British chose, to categorize the many similar, but varied beliefs, of the Indian "natives" that they encountered whilst India was a British colony.

04-12.-2007, 04:34 AM

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The relationship with them is strengthened by the African pastor that was already there. We have nothing to do with how they worship. I will stick to my guns and say that the only way we all can get along is with a very limited government.

04-12.-2007, 04:39 AM

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I wonder if "sharing their christianity" includes advising the Africans to avoid using condoms "because it's a sin", or outright lying about the condoms being contaminated with AIDS. Many christians in Africa are sharing their faith this way. bk

My church has no opinion on the use of condoms or any other birth controll. (I myself am going to get snipped

). Outside the Catholic church, I dont know any that do.

04-12.-2007, 04:53 AM

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My church has no opinion on the use of condoms or any other birth controll.

Nor at my church, but I have to say Bill that some of the things suggested about us Christians on this thread are hilarious.....sort of.

It would seem by this thread that we (believers) are some really vile creatures walking this planet.

04-12.-2007, 05:56 AM

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Nor at my church, but I have to say Bill that some of the things suggested about us Christians on this thread are hilarious.....sort of.

It would seem by this thread that we (believers) are some really vile creatures walking this planet.

You mean it sounds like the way Hitler described the Jew in Nazi Germany. Gas the Christians and worship at the alter of progresive secularism and utopian socialism. Wait Hillary isnt in yet...just give us your money and shut the hell up.

04-12.-2007, 09:31 AM	#143
bkaapcke Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 112	Re: Evangelical Disconnect Hmmm. The Hitler thing again. I doubt Hitler personally killed many Jews. Most of this work was done by rank and file Germans, most of whom were at least raised in the christian tradition. Prior to the rise of hitler, catholics and protestants were the mainstream of Germany. The christians do not have clean hands here. bk

05-12.-2007, 08:20 AM	#144
bkaapcke Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 112	Re: Evangelical Disconnect I wonder how many people in that village Bill's church is helping out have decided they don't need the white mans god. I'll bet not many have 'opted out'. You know, biting the hand that feeds you, and all. bk

05-12.-2007, 09:19 AM

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I wonder how many people in that village Bill's church is helping out have decided they don't need the white mans god. I'll bet not many have 'opted out'. You know, biting the hand that feeds you, and all. bk

So what? This affects you how? And it's the Jews' God BTW....hate them too?

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05-12.-2007, 10:29 AM	#146
bkaapcke Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 112	Re: Evangelical Disconnect A low number of people 'opting out' of beilng taught chrlstianity would indicate that it's not so voluntary after all. One might conclude that the 'charity' is being given with an eye towards 'garnering souls'. With ulterior motives like this, it's not really charity. This is why it doesn't balance off the historical evil works of many christians. bk

05-12.-2007, 02:19 PM

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A low number of people 'opting out' of beilng taught chrlstianity would indicate that it's not so voluntary after all. One might conclude that the 'charity' is being given with an eye towards 'garnering souls'. With ulterior motives like this, it's not really charity. This is why it doesn't balance off the historical evil works of many christians. bk

That makes perfect sense!! Why would anyone really want to follow the God of someone who for no apparent reason other than this God, left their life of ease and travelled across the world to comfort them and give them food, shelter, education and love. I mean it was so much better before "they" got there...

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05-12.-2007, 04:14 PM

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I will stick to my guns and say that the only way we all can get along is with a very limited government.

How about very limited religion in addition to limited government?

Or how about government that is more decentralized so it is closer to the people and more responsive to the prols?

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05-12.-2007, 04:59 PM

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How about very limited religion in addition to limited government?

Or how about government that is more decentralized so it is closer to the people and more responsive to the prols?

Or how 'bout anarchy....

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06-12.-2007, 01:58 AM

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How about very limited religion in addition to limited government?

Or how about government that is more decentralized so it is closer to the people and more responsive to the prols?

Religion is a personal choice and Christians do have the right to free speach as do you. I love the idea of a more decentralized govt however. If you think about the large portion of money that we all pay to the federal govt so %80 of it can be chewed up by federal employees , with the balance getting redistributed, it is no wonder we all argue for the scraps. Without getting too far from the topic. If you limited the resources of the feds, I doubt they would do half of the dumb things that both sides hate.

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