Al Gore : Nobel prize

Mish

I believe liberalism is the greatest threat facing humans and the science and statistics are there to back it up.
Wasn't there global warming after the ice age? Thank God for that.
I like your posts on bike stuff much better than the political stuff.

Bro Deal

And Gore is a politician, and that is the problem with him pushing global warming. He has enemies. The Democrats are already on board, so are a good portion of independents; but to get anything done in Washington, you need the conservative or it will just get blocked in the Senate.

The issue of global warming has been politicized; and if anything is to be done about it in the U.S., it needs to be depoliticized. Al Gore is the wrong man to do that. In fact by becoming the man on point for global warming in the states, the only thing he will accomplish is the conservatives digging their heels in deeper to prevent any changes.


No it isn't. Instead of preaching to the faithful, Gore could instead work toward positive changes that can be accomplished with today's technology. I guess I just value doing something instead of talking about it (or making a movie about it).


Michael Moore is exactly on subject. In the political arena, which is where Gore operates, people are judged by their past as much by what they say. Democracy is not supposed to work that way, but it does. Rational debate just does not exist in the American politcal system. Figures like Gore, Moore, Gingrich, etc. have built up such an opposition to themselves that what they say will never be accepted by a significant portion of of the voters, no matter what type of scientific backing they have. Al Gore could produce a film that showed scientific proof of the return of Jesus, and Republicans would reject it.

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Bro Deal

I thought neocons were not too big on all that science stuff. If it ain't in the bible, it's either not true or a liberal plot, eh?

That also brings up the obvious question: How could there have been an ice age to warm up from when according to the bible the earth is only a few thousand years old?

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alienator

Well, I don't judge people by the fucked up standards that politicians do; therefore, I'm free to judge them more objectively, as are all the rest of the people in the world who aren't politicians.

Global warming politicized? Yeah, so what? So is education, Social Security, war, patriotism, citizenship, medical care, and so on. Again, so what? And not every action need be a technical or political solution. Gore put out a film that presented the facts of global warming with cogent arguments. Said film did more to bring light to the issue than anyone or anything in the last 10 years. Hell, the acknowledged expert on global warming, a NASA scientist at Goddard Space Center couldn't get the word out, get any traction on the issue. He was gagged by Bush and his cronies because said scientists facts didn't jive with the administrations fantasies.

So then, who the hell is appropriate for giving the message, eh? I guess no one. I guess we should stick our heads in the sand and let come what may. I guess that's one solution, but there are a growing number of people who are paying a lot more attention and asking more questions since Gore raised the stakes. Good on him for that. That's more than anyone else you or anyone else could suggest has done.

These days are remarkable for the number of Americans who just won't stand up and do anything. The country is rife with such people. Gore has stood up and pushed the message. It really doesn't matter whether you or any pundits like him or not.

threaded

If Al Gore getting this Nobel Prize doesn't prove to you that Climate Change is an utter myth, nothing will.

saintsfan342000

Hahaha pretty funny.

I love how after the 2005 hurricane season (katrina and rita making landfall) all those damn fools tried to make everyone believe it was because of global warming, and convinved us that the 2006 hurrican season would be even worse, and not a single hurricane entered the Gulf. They're all trend following fools.
Ethanol?? Give me a break...
http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...cal_boondoggles

Wind?? Sure it's clean, but only accounts for 1% of the world's energy production right now, and it's completely unrealistic to think we'll ever get produce a large share of our power from wind.

And so on....people just need to think in realistic, non-knee-jerking terms about global warming.

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artemidorus

Damn straight, we should be invading more countries - Iran, Syria, Brunei, Canada...

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artemidorus

I agree - Stephen Hawking, a misguided anthropogenic-climate-change believer, has always been a bit of an idiot.

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alienator

No kidding! If we could just get rid of all the destitute, ignorant savages that stand between us and the things we so richly deserve. I think we, along with our British lapdogs, should get right on cleaning up this joint so that it meets with our conservative, Christian, culturally ignorant views better.

alienator

Damn those scientists! Today is it was published that one of our university scientists was on that Nobel winning committee. He must be so misguided, what with following that whole scientific method thing and all.

I say let's leave the real important brainy work to the Intelligent Design brainiacs, the evangelical leaders, and the oil companies, gosh darnit.

Bro Deal

It doesn't matter what you think, it matters what the average voter thinks. If you want something done about global warming, then you had better not have a polarizing figure like Gore leading the charge.

The what is that nothing has been done about any of the politicized issues.

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"You are like the wind and I like the lion. You form the tempest. The sand stings my eyes and the ground is parched. I roar in defiance but you do not hear. But between us there is a difference. I, like the lion, must remain in my place. While you like the wind will never know yours." -- Mulay Hamid El Raisuli, Lord of the Riff, Sultan to the Berbers, Last of the Barbary Pirates

jhuskey

I agree global warming is a political vehicle but also believe it is real and here.
Totally the fault of mankind? No, I believe some natural forces are at work but humans have helped to accelerate the process.
I also believe from observation and what I have read that it is too late to stop it and our position at the top of the food chain may be coming to an end.
I would suggest looking at subterrainian housing.

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limerickman

The issue of global warming is the single biggest threat to humanity in my opinion.

Throughout the planet, eco systems, which have existed for centuries, have begun to break down and the rate of breakdown can be corrolated to the increase of man-made emmissions.
The science - and over 2,000 scientists have agreed this recently in Paris -
is conclusive on this.

The British goverment, through the Stern report, has quantified the cost of not tackling climate change.

From what I have read about Gore over the last 15 years or so, he has placed the environmental issue high on his political CV.

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morelike hypocrisy.

threaded

And everyone was sure the Earth was flat and had lots of proof.