The "Bad Stuff" list.

spasticteapot

I'm a big fan of caffiene, and energy drinks in general. However, all this carbonated soda is supposed to do nasty things to your bones, so I decided to see if I can find a better solution.

As a preface, I weigh 205 lbs., and have a strong tolerance for stimulants in general. I drink a LOT of espresso during finals week.

The guy at the supplement-store counter gave me a free sample of four capsules (two servings) of something called "Cellucor Extreme Thermal Shock D4". I figured it was pretty safe, seeing as how they give it away. Two days ago, I tried two capsules, and felt caffinated - it has the same amount of caffiene as about for 12oz cans of Mountian Dew, of which I can drink a full liter with no ill effects (not that I do it often!)

Today, I tried the other two, along with a Beef and Bean Burrito from Taco bell. (An old friend was buying lunch, and I could'nt very well refuse.) For the first few hours I felt a little jittery - far more so than the first dose - but otherwise okay.

Then, I went to my excercise class at the gym. (Don't laugh. It's full of 45-year-old-men who can do handstand push-ups.) My heart rate went up to what seemed to be over 300 beats per minute, although upon clocking it again after biking home, it was likely closer to 230 beats per minute.

After getting home, I drank a massive amount of water, and then urinated out as much as I could. I then took a hot bath, and now feel much better.

Anyone else have any examples of stuff to be avoided?

iliveonnitro

Are you trying to be serious or are you just being a troll?

"Cellucor Extreme Thermal Shock D4"? 230bpm? 300bpm?!

Stop drinking pop, stop eating out -- that is the "bad stuff." You don't need caffeine or any of your other crap to feel "good."

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spasticteapot

Let me ask you this: Have you ever met someone who works with computers that wasn't a caffiene addict? It sort of comes with the territory.

Better 290mg of caffiene than four cans of Mountian Dew.

factory61

Couldn't agree more.... Eating "clean" foods and getting rid of all of that toxic crap you've listed will make you feel better than any amount of so called stimulants.

spasticteapot

I'll stick with what I can prove in a lab, thanks.

And I'll also stick with my caffiene. It's not much of a workout enhancer, but it's very nice for late-night LANparties and D&D games.

factory61

I'd love to see the lab results on a Mountain Dew and Taco Bell diet.

mongooseboy

The best source of caffiene is coffee in my opinion. NOTHING else works like coffee with a hint of creamer and sugar. Used to drink black, but that was when i smoked too i figure just a little sugar (splenda is better yet!) and some milk/creamer cant hurt ya too much.

I used to be able to drink a few liters of mt. dew a day, but i gave that up.

and as for staying up late, its as over-rated as the computer games you are playing. Go out and bike or something instead of playing childish computer games. And, if your heart rate was really that high, you wouldnt have made it here. TdF riders are hitting 160bpm climbing in the piraneese (uh cant spell ) if your heart rate gets really high, its time to consult a doctor and drop ALL caffiene from your diet.

this comes from somone who HAD high blood pressure at age 15 (I am not kidding even for a milisecond on this one, it scared the living crap out of me) im now 25 and blood pressure and heart rate have been good for the past 9 1/2 years

iliveonnitro

mmm, cancer in a package.

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Julian G.

x2...

Jono L

yeh If you're eating a few hundred kilo's a day

iliveonnitro

Just like how only 3 cigarettes/day are OK as long as you don't smoke a couple packs/day...

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spasticteapot

I only eat Taco Bell about once every two weeks. Mountian Dew is no more than twice a week, and it's the diet stuff.

I'd rather have sushi and green tea, but if I bought that every two weeks, I'd have no money for a bike.

Hmm. You know, a lot of the same people who play these "childish computer games", or enjoy their weekly game of Dungeons and Dragons, are the same people who wrote the vBulletin software this forum is supported by, and the operating system it runs on.

Write us off as "Childish" if you want, but before you do, head over to the nearest Magic: The Gathering tournament, Star Trek convention, or Gen Con. You'll find people who design MRIs, write software for supercomputers, and deal with mathematics so complex I can't even describe them. Admittedly, you'll also find a lot of people who live in their mother's basements, but to be quite honest, said gamers are generally very nice people nonetheless.

And I can promise you this: The next time you get an MRI, odds are that it's a GE Medical MRI machine, designed in part by the same two guys I played Settlers of Catan with at two A.M. at a recent sci-fi convention. The data will be entered into an Epic Systems database, a company known for programmers with addictions to Red Bull and a penchant for playing far too much Halo.

230BPM is not a huge deal for short periods of time. This is actually pretty close to the upper levels of "aerobic excercise" for a fat man according to the chart on the wall. While I am not a fat man, 230bpm for a few minutes won't kill me.


Also, on the subject of Splenda - It's nearly harmless. And you get maybe 100mg in a can of soda - that's not much!

benkoostra

How many bong hits per day is OK?

iliveonnitro

Diet pop? Even better, now you'll just have a degenerating skeletal system and cancer to boot.

PS if your HR monitor is reading 230, its a 99.9999% chance of interference as HR software is coded up to 230bpm.

PPS linear algebra/calc3/differential equations/etc isn't that incomprehensible.

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