One Legged Training

VeloZoooooooom

Don't try and turn this around. How about answering some of my questions?

crowley

Anquetil took his pedaling style to the grave because it would have almost been impossible for him to pass it on. He did not
take the "elimination of back pain" secret with him. He could
never have known this because with a perfect lower back he
would never have suffered from back pain. In any case , he
knew of only one pedaling style, his own linear style.
With possibly the weakest and most injured lower back in the
sport , I tried and tested all pedaling styles and knew instantly
what worked. It is this important advantage that will make it
much easier to pass on Anquetil's style to the worst victims
of this pain. Being forced out of the sport, it's a case of pedal
like Anquetil or you can't pedal at all. Normal riders would not
have the patience needed to acquire and perfect this technique.
Anquetil proved its advantages in performance, being over 60
years of age I don't want to take that risk and end as Dr E
Burke R.I.P. did, at least not yet. I can prove its medical
advantage and that is what I am concentrating on. This is a
very powerful technique.

ric_stern/RST

noel, without force instrumented pedals etc., you aren't going to be able to prove anything with any credibility. i don't know whether andrew bradley has this instrumentation (or if he even knows he's been invited to test you!).

assuming that you've been medically cleared, there's no reason why you shouldn't take part in maximal exercise. there's quite a bit of research in this area.

ric

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crowley

I would consider it better to pass on the technique first before
taking that risk. There was a medical query in Cycling Weekly a
few months ago about serious lower back pain on the bike,
so serious that he used have to walk home. I would say he
got very little staisfaction from the answer that he got. He
would make an ideal rider for this test and being young 16, could
test it for performance also. If you were a victim of persistant
lower back pain, you would give anything to be able to train and
compete completely pain free and consider getting rid of the pain
much more important than performance. I know, I've been there.
A Bradley is not invited, I just suggested a man like him might be
interested if asked.

ric_stern/RST

no one is arguing that back pain isn't severe or that a cure is needed. what's required to satisfy those that have asked, is some empircal proof. it's well known that a placebo can have an effect, so to identify whether your/JA's method works you need controls and empirical evidence.

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crowley

The root cause of the pain is the continuous strain associated
with round pedaling, both in generating the pedal power and
having to support most of the upper body weight. Higher gears
should not cause back pain but with circular pedaling they do
because they are magnifying the strain that this power
generating technique places in the lower back area. It
can almost be compared to safe and dangerous weight lifting.
Anquetil's style hinges all power generating strain in the hips
and the working arms support all the upper body weight.
The result is a relaxed massaging effect on the lower back
and the higher the gear (within reason) the more of a
beneficial effect it has on the lower back.

VeloZoooooooom

He asked for proof and empirical evidence, not another soliloquy.

crowley

What can you do for back pain victims?
The reason for getting the back pain victims to travel here is
to prove that it can be passed on, I already know it works, the
difficulty will be in getting the message to the riders but I am
confident it can be done. What I do not know is how Anquetil
as a child happened to arrive at this technique or did he ever
attempt to pass it on to other riders. Did they ask him?
The proof will be available when these riders are cleared of
back pain but a medical researcher would be required to
confirm it. Without that it would just be a repetition of what
is going on at present.
The natural way is not always best, remember Dick Fosbury.

ric_stern/RST

i'm not doubting per se your 'healing powers' noel, what i'm asking for is some substatiated evidence that it works. if you heal a group of cyclists who just say "i had bad back pain prior to noels intervention" then that's just anecdotal evidence - the same as the problem you currently have. what we're asking for, and of course $10K is at stake here, is some empirical evidence that it works. without that, how do we know that your evidence (i.e., presenting a group of 'healed' cyclists isn't biased).

i can't do anything per se about back pain (unless it relates to a badly positioned cyclist on a bike), velozoom can't do anything either as regards back pain, but then neither of us two have suggested we can (or at least not to my knowledge). and we don't know that you can either at present.

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verve825

Mr. Crowley-

I've been thoroughly enjoying watching your increasingly strident descent into a kind of quasi-mystical realm over the past several dozen posts. Neglecting for the moment a few questions I have about your apparent prescience and insight into the vaunted (but dead) head of Mr. JA, based solely on having watched videos, and letting the facts as presented by Mr. Stern speak for themsleves, the most critical point I'm faced with is this: if this 'linear' pedalling method is so bloody effective, why are you not atop the podium, enjoying the attentions of comely young lasses in yellow dresses, along side Messrs. Armstrong and Ulrich?

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crowley

That is true, you don't but I know and so will all the back pain
victims that it works for, so what will it matter whether anyone
else believes it or not. I am seeking the worst possible back
pain victims, let the best specialists in back pain have a go at
doing something for them first and let us see what hope they
have of ending the pain. Of course if you can completely
eliminate the pain of the worst victims, it clearly follows 99 per
cent of back pain can be eliminated. There will always be an
exceptional case. The difference in transferring this technique
to back pain victims and ordinary Rob Coapman style riders is
that they would approach it with a positive outlook while
Coapman would be negative. As this technique is 99 per cent
mental, this plays an important part.
That was why it was impossible to copy and probably impossible
for Anquetil to pass it on to other riders.

VeloZoooooooom

You do not know me, sir, and do not presume to state what I will or will not do. I'm not a dead french cyclist and therefore you can not read my mind.

FYI- I would very much have an open mind on this is the concept were presented logically, with supporting data, and without the main basis for the concept being one man's assertion that he can tell exactly what was happening in a dead racer's mind and body based solely on grainy videos from 40 years ago. If you want to be listened to you are going to have to do more than rant and rave in such wild ways about your theories.

ric_stern/RST

But for your $10K bet you need to provide evidence, because you've stated that your facts are genuine. We need documentary proof of this

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crowley

I don't need money. Back to the name of this tread, if a
sample of the power of this technique when compared to all other
styles is required, the most suitable way to provide it would be
by a one legged pedaling TT around one lap of a track from
a seated " standing start".
Finally do you believe that the recommended circular pedaling
style is the most sensible way to pedal, leaving whether you pull up or don't pull up out of the question.