SO what, with DOPING?

limerickman

Anquetil never admitted to anything.

With regard to shortening the length of stages - stage distances have been shortened substantially from the 1930's onwards.




As a fan, it should be your business (and every other fans business) as to what riders are putting in to their bodies.
Tolerance of doping, doesn't mitigate the fact that it is cheating.
Even if they're all doped.
If you dope, you cheat.





You're not in a position to judge?
You've already said that you won't condemn a rider for doping - that is a judgement.

The value of sport is diminished by cheating/doping : I couldn't care less how much money/pressure there is : if you dope, you cheat and you acquire whatever prize/sponsorship money by deception/cheating.

The end doesn't justify the means - no matter how riders who have been caught try to rationalise it.

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.."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets" - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it - Armstrong 2005 TDF
morelike hypocrisy.

bikerboy

Its that attitude that keeps the problem such a secret. Its like murder or beating your wife, its unspeakable.

If the attitude of the USADA was more liberal, they could end it by taking people and paying them for info, and not punishing them. Instead its USADA vs Gansta USA. Such a conservative movement in WADA. I normally like the conservative side, but in this case its not working.

USADA pretends to have control over the situation, and its a big travesty. They are just posing that they know. Theres no test for transfusing one's own blood. 'Travis Tygart' struggled to deal with Landis, and they will all lose together if Landis is racing again next year.

redLantern

so anquetil didnt say in the public debate on french television. "only a fool would imagine it was possible to ride Bordeaux-Paris on just water". if that is not an admission ,i dont know what is.

"Anquetil argued that professional riders were workers and had the same right to treat their pains as, say, a geography teacher."

well i agree to disagree, but the fact that i dont condemn the riders is not a judgement. i am not approving or disapproving of their drug use, i am simply not condemning them.because i am not in their shoes.

redLantern

cow blood boy.....call me what you wish,your opinion doesnt mean anything to me.