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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Hi everyone. this is my first time posting. well here is my question: could i have a possible future in this sport. i've been riding for about six months now i want to start racing. here's some info about my self. i'm 15 and i'm 5'9" 135 lbs. and other then cycling i run track and play soccer. on a 20 mile ride i can average 17-20 mph and my top speed is around 32-33 mph on a sprint. i ride about 130-150 miles a week and i was wondering if i should start racing or hold off a while.
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Topography and wind makes outdoor speeds very subjective. If you could get an estimate of your FTP watts per kg you could see where you are on the power profile chart.
http://www.cyclingpeakssoftware.com...rprofile_v4.gif If you have a Kurt Kinetic Road Machine http://www.1upusa.com/kurtkinetictrainer.htm you can get a fairly accurate estimate from a speed to power chart like this. I road for an hour on the KKR at 19.8mph=252watts FTP. 252/89kg=2.83w/kg 17mph=183.33w 17.1mph=185.53w 17.2mph=187.74w 17.3mph=189.98w 17.4mph=192.23w 17.5mph=194.51w 17.6mph=196.80w 17.7mph=199.12w 17.8mph=201.46w 17.9mph=203.81w 18mph=206.19w 18.1mph=208.59w 18.2mph=211.01w 18.3mph=213.45w 18.4mph=215.91w 18.5mph=218.39w 18.6mph=220.89w 18.7mph=223.42w 18.8mph=225.96w 18.9mph=228.53w 19mph=231.12w 19.1mph=233.73w 19.2mph=236.36w 19.3mph=239.02w 19.4mph=241.70w 19.5mph=244.40w 19.6mph=247.12w 19.7mph=249.86w 19.8mph=252.63w......My FTP 19.9mph=255.42w 20mph=258.24w 20.1mph=261.07w 20.2mph=263.93w 20.3mph=266.81w 20.4mph=269.72w 20.5mph=272.65w 20.6mph=275.60w 20.7mph=278.58w 20.8mph=281.58w 20.9mph=284.60w 21mph=287.65w 21.1mph=290.72w 21.2mph=293.82w 21.3mph=296.94w 21.4mph=300.09w 21.5mph=303.26w 21.6mph=306.45w 21.7mph=309.67w 21.8mph=312.92w 21.9mph=316.19w 22mph=319.48w 22.1mph=322.80w 22.2mph=326.15w 22.3mph=329.52w 22.4mph=332.92w 22.5mph=336.34w 22.6mph=339.79w 22.7mph=343.26w 22.8mph=346.76w 22.9mph=350.29w 23mph=353.84w 23.1mph=357.42w 23.2mph=361.03w 23.3mph=364.66w 23.4mph=368.32w 23.5mph=372.01w 23.6mph=375.72w 23.7mph=379.46w 23.8mph=383.23w 23.9mph=387.03w 24mph=390.85w 24.1mph=394.70w 24.2mph=398.58w 24.3mph=402.48w 24.4mph=406.42w 24.5mph=410.38w 24.6mph=414.37w 24.7mph=418.39w 24.8mph=422.44w 24.9mph=426.51w 25mph=430.62w 25.1mph=434.75w......Lance Armstrong FTP maybe 25.2mph=438.91w 25.3mph=443.10w 25.4mph=447.32w 25.5mph=451.57w 25.6mph=455.85w 25.7mph=460.16w 25.8mph=464.49w 25.9mph=468.86w 26mph=473.26w Quote:
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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I think that before you blind with science and talk of W/kg, some words of encouragement would be more suitable.
Everybody has a future in cycling. It's great fun, you meet so many different types of people all united by their love of the bike and you get pretty fit to boot. And you can see some wonderful sights out on the road, especially if you take a bike on holiday to some traditional cycling heartlands ie France, Belgium or Italy. Once you get involved in cycling, it never leaves you. You'll probably be out riding when you're 70 years old. I think what the poster meant was: will he or she be a good rider? Well, that's up to you and your approach. You can have the physical talents of a Tour de France winner but the mental fortitude of a chicken. Or you could be physically average but have a will of iron. The former will get you a long way, the latter will make you a legend. If you have both, the history books are there waiting for your name. Go to your local bike shop and ask about a club, then approach the club and ask for advice about getting into local races. Don't go in expecting to win at the first outing, expect to get a real kicking and suffer a lot. But it is - perversely - fun to do races and pretend to be a pro. And seek advice. If I knew as a junior what I know now (I'm 37) I'm sure I would've done a lot better. If you can find a knowledgeable rider or even a coach, you'll go much further than by just going out and smashing yourself to bits thinking it's good training. A heart rate monitor or - even better - a power meter will be of immense help. They're pricey but worth it, although you do need to know what to do with them. These forums will provide you with immense help. Above all, have fun doing it. If you're not enjoying your bike, you won't keep riding. If you keep riding regularly, there's no end to the progress you can make. Have fun! |
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Location: Indiana USA
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Taylor, Have you gone and watched any of the races in your area? Do you know any 14-18 year olds who race? Are there local races that you know about in July and August that you and your bike could get to? So yes, you should get yourself into a race or two this summer. I don't know if you are in the US or not, but you should be able to find some time trials and races this summer with small junior fields to try things out. If you are in the US, have you taken a look at the TrueSport Event Calender? Have you been on some group rides with at least 5-10 other riders? If you can get a race or two under your belt this summer, you'll start next season knowing quite a bit more about the game. Tell us a little bit more in response to the questions above and we can give you better help and suggestions.
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a lot of answers you might find here will blind you with silly talk of FT and w/kg. Ignore that for now. Some guys get way too into numbers and it's easy to get caught up in that. I imagine you want to race, so don't go down the obsessive solitary indoor FTP training route....get out and ride some races! Don't bother with an indoor trainer - it's summer now anyway. do 2 things - 1) find a club - join it. start racing as soon as you can. at first it will be really hard, and possibly frightening. it will get easier though. Everyone is blown away at first. 2) Enjoy your riding - don't overdo it. At your age you shouldn't be riding more than 8-10 hours a week, or more than 2 hours in any one session. At your age with your athletic background and your apparent ability (based on the speeds you mention) you will improve rapidly, and you don't need to be riding rigidly structured interval sessions or using a power meter etc. Just mix up your rides - try mixing up your speeds and intensities - some sprints, some 1 minute top speed efforts, some 5 minute hard efforts, and some 20 minute all out rides. try and keep your cadence (pedal rpm) high - don't make the beginners mistake of riding in too heavy a gear - spin at least 90 rpm, and for your faster efforts try and get up to 110. Make sure you take at least one day off riding a week, and at least one real gentle ride of short duration. every other week take 2 days off. you'll only get fitter when you rest after some hard training. |
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Find a good community club with a certified cycling coach and go ride and have fun! Don't worry about any of the numbers you see above.
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Depends on where you live and how motivated you are. If you live in an area where you cant compete in a sanctioned race at least twice a week, you can forget about making it to cat. 1 or 2 in the next couple years. You cant possibly know a certain "potential" without going into a lab and having tests run on you. I cant see the point of this unless you have been racing atleast a few years and are a good rider... Its better to give racing a try for a couple full seasons with a good club/ team atmosphere to really see if its something you can enjoy as a primary hobby. At 16 or 17 you will start to be able to do longer training rides. I knew a junior who could do 6 hr rides at that age. Probably not so smart though... |
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Don't worry about any lab tests. Go find a coach and a club!
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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thanks for all the replies. i think im going to try to find a club to ride with now.
anyone know any good ones in cental california? |
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"Occasionally the curlew dropped back to an easier flight spot in the body of the flock, but each time after a brief rest he moved forward to the lead again."
From "Last of the Curlews" by Fred Bodsworth
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The chart shown is only valid for a ride on a properly setup Kurt Kinetic Trainer. Did you average 21 mph for an hour outside? or on the KK? |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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I averaged it outside so it prob different then.
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Location: USA
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The wattage to do 21mph on a normal flat to rolling road with neutral wind is about cat. 3/4 or 5 fitness level depending on terrain and your position on the bicycle. Typical cat. 1 riders can hold 30 mph for a 90 minute crit going around corners. Pros can hold 30+ for 4-6 hours. Typical winning time in a flat state 40k (24.9 mile) TT is around 48:00. Lance Armstrong rode a Long 35 mile TT at 33 mph in the Tour 2000. Add hills and average speed drops dramaticaly. Floyd Landis averaged nearly 24 mph in his long stage 17 break in the Tour last year, 80 miles by himself over 3 large mountains and several smaller 5-10 min. climbs... He had assistance though from his team and then a large breakaway he caught, but still... -Fastest speed in a tour stage: 31.05 mph, over 122 miles, '99, Cippo -Milan San Remo, about 182 miles, has been run off at 29mph... I like speed. |
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