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Old 08-07.-2007, 09:19 AM   #16
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Umm.... anyone else think that the "Dog Killer" went a lil too far. I mean HE had the chance to outride the beast if he had enough time to pull out some heat and aim well enough to blast its' head off. I mean c'mon that was like an excuse to murder an animal. And the note WTF!
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Old 08-07.-2007, 09:51 AM   #17
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Umm.... anyone else think that the "Dog Killer" went a lil too far. I mean HE had the chance to outride the beast if he had enough time to pull out some heat and aim well enough to blast its' head off. I mean c'mon that was like an excuse to murder an animal. And the note WTF!
I guess it depends on a lot of things, but an attack by a pit bull is a life threatening event for sure. Plus, going all out for a few seconds is not necessarily the same as being able to outrun the dog.
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Old 08-07.-2007, 02:33 PM   #18
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Umm.... anyone else think that the "Dog Killer" went a lil too far. I mean HE had the chance to outride the beast if he had enough time to pull out some heat and aim well enough to blast its' head off. I mean c'mon that was like an excuse to murder an animal. And the note WTF!

Sometimes when I think about it, I wonder if I went far enough? For instance, when I was dragging the damned dog carcass towards their front porch, I considering throwing it through their front picture window. I was PISSED!! It was at THAT very moment that the idea about the "out of order" note hit me. I remembered seeing James Bond do that in 'The Spy Who Loved Me". I started laughing at the thought and simply had to go that route instead. Laughter really does diffuse a situation.

"Excuse to murder an animal" You're kidding, right? I passed 20 or more dogs in their yards that day and didn't find an 'excuse' to shoot any of them. Why? The fact that they didn't attack me sits high on the list....

IMHO, we've become a nation of pussies that believe our personal protection is someone else's responsibility. I often wonder if it's a result of the daily brow-beating that we get from liberal types like yourself? I'll tell you what.... should I ever see a pit bull about to kill you, I'll keep my gun holstered and head the other way.

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Old 08-07.-2007, 11:07 PM   #19
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I think you should have fulfilled your civic duty by filing a police report. The dog owners are just going to get another dog and will continue to be careless (or perhaps to amuse themselves on purpose by letting it get out). In fact, you've given them a score to settle.

So go to the cops and make sure these people get a history of having let a pit bull out.

And don't commit criminal damage to property or you'll lose your concealed permit.
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Old 10-07.-2007, 04:10 AM   #20
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I called the police, and a police report was filed. No criminal charges were filed towards me. I was informed that the dog had just previously attacked a man and child and that the man was hurt protecting the child, so it wasn't hard to see my case was self defense. I know all the local cops, and I was told that everyone could have done without the "out of order" note between their laughter. LOL

The owners were fined for letting a dangerous dog roam illegally. They've since moved away.

Sorry for leaving these details out.....

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I think you should have fulfilled your civic duty by filing a police report. The dog owners are just going to get another dog and will continue to be careless (or perhaps to amuse themselves on purpose by letting it get out). In fact, you've given them a score to settle.

So go to the cops and make sure these people get a history of having let a pit bull out.

And don't commit criminal damage to property or you'll lose your concealed permit.
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Old 10-08.-2007, 04:58 AM   #21
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So going to work today, and uphill at that, I was charged by two dogs. One pitbull the second a shepard. They came from the right side, shepard pulled in behind me, pitbull beside and snapped away at me. I stood on the pedals and hauled but they were able to keep up easily. I cut left across two lanes of traffic but they kept coming. I took a hard left onto the sidewalk but couldn't get straitened out fast enough and hit a large decorative rock, Landed ok with my hands up, the dogs took off guess I wasn't interesting anymore. My rear derailer is destroyed, and I fear my tires are VERY out of round now. I fortunately have a walmart bike and the replacement derailer is 15.99. I just hope that nothing else suffered any damage that will be expensive. I went to a sporting goods store and bought mace with CS tear gas, this WILL NOT happen again. If I had been a kid or a bit less lucky this could have gone much worse. Good news, not a scratch on me and the helmet didn't even get bumped. Bike gloves saved my hands so I'm completely unharmed. The denali is a rock though that was a HARD crash it took, and it still got me to work (although in only one gear) before it gave up the ghost.

Scary, but I think the dogs were just chasers since they took off when you came off the bike. If they wanted you they would have had you. Most dogs are cowards and will scoot if you surprise them with some sprayed water or a well placed kick. Have you guessed yet that I'm a dog lover? Also, a cyclist is not a bunny. Riding a zig zag route will only slow you down. I've been chased before with no effect but I think if I was really scared of being a dog's breakfast or lunch I would ride into traffic and let my friends the cars take care of the problem.
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Old 10-08.-2007, 05:05 AM   #22
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Yup! I had a pit bull chase me with the intention of killing me. I ride a power-assisted lwb recumbent and also carry a .40cal Glock. When I saw the dog in my rearview mirror trying to overtake me, I hit the throttle and outpaced him enough to have time to dismount the ebike and take aim. The dog was dead with one shot. I dragged his useless carcass to the front porch of his owner's house and rang the doorbell. Nobody was home. I pinned a note on the dog that said "out of order" and left him there.

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I don't believe it for a minute. If you had outpace him why didn't you just keep going? And if you were so scared how did you manage to get off your ride, get your weapon and put a slug in a running dog? And how did you know where it came from? And I almost forgot, this whole story is suspiciously cinematic.

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Old 10-08.-2007, 07:35 AM   #23
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n2t,

Some really interesting suggestions in this thread on what you should do.

Do yourself a favor and take this advice. The next time this happen contact the local law enforcement or Sate police make them fill out a report with your statement. I only assume you’re living in the states, which one? If one compliant is not enough than make another. The owner or owners of these two animals is the real problem here. Make them pay for your losses.

About discharging firearms. This is NOT the way to go and frankly it sounds like a bunch of macho bull. What if your aim is off and the bullet hit a moving vehicle and caused human deaths. How would that feel? Really!

While being chased by dogs the best thing to do is keep moving in my opinion. Most will flee if confronted and will only turn to defense if cornered. I DO NOT condo you doing this. I am trained to deal with this and as my final WARRING keep moving and do stop. See the chase is the natural prey instinct in dog with high drive. At the same time there is that 1% that the dog is just vicious. I also read somebody post about Rabies. Hehe you got more chances get it from a bat at 5-10%.

FYI a German Shepherd Dog can run 31.76 MPH or 14.2 Meters per second if you like the metric conversion.
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Old 10-08.-2007, 07:50 AM   #24
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Of two dog attacks, I was chased and knocked off my bike once and had to do a little punching and kicking to drive off my attacker. Just an ordinary dog some guy in the neighborhood had.

The other time, pooch was chasing me with fangs bared, ears back and no barking so I let a little pepper go off behind me. It slowed and stopped despite not being directly hit.
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Old 10-08.-2007, 07:52 AM   #25
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I don't believe it for a minute. If you had outpace him why didn't you just keep going? And if you were so scared how did you manage to get off your ride, get your weapon and put a slug in a running dog? And how did you know where it came from? And I almost forgot, this whole story is suspiciously cinematic.
If you can go fast for a SHORT time, you should also be able to go equally fast for a LONG time! Why? Because, that's why!

Maybe go fast into TRAFFIC like Aubinmg suggests.
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Scary, but I think the dogs were just chasers since they took off when you came off the bike. If they wanted you they would have had you. Most dogs are cowards and will scoot if you surprise them with some sprayed water or a well placed kick. Have you guessed yet that I'm a dog lover? Also, a cyclist is not a bunny. Riding a zig zag route will only slow you down. I've been chased before with no effect but I think if I was really scared of being a dog's breakfast or lunch I would ride into traffic and let my friends the cars take care of the problem.
So the people who get mauled to death by pit bulls should have surprised them with some sprayed water or a well placed kick.
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So the people who get mauled to death by pit bulls should have surprised them with some sprayed water or a well placed kick.
I said most dogs. Crazed pit bulls are not representative of the race.
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Old 23-08.-2007, 05:34 AM   #28
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I own an American Pitbull Terrier & the media has exploited these dogs to death. He is a sweetheart & has been taught it is wrong to show aggression to anyone & is always leashed if not in my enclosed fenced in yard or in my house. I love dogs & have always had Pits' & Shepards & I will say that my Sheps are MUCH more people aggresive than my Pits' which is why Sheps' are used as police dogs......more people aggressive. Just my 2 cents from an owner of both breeds & much experience with them. Angry people make an angry dog. Peaceful people make a peaceful dog (usually).

I love my dog dearly but should I fail to do my job with him & he chases someone down a street I give that person my blessing to protect themself at all cost even if they must kill my beloved dog. People are more important than any animal. If I were being chased I'd mace, kick, punch, stab, shoot...whatever it took to protect myself. Irresponsible dog owners need to also understand that people have the right to walk/ride down the street without the threat of being attacked but any animal regardless of how close I may get to "their" property line. I'm not gunna wait to take it up with the owner AFTER I'm mauled.

Again, I'd hate to injure or kill a dog but I'm more important to my Wife & daughter than any animal. I'd protect myself at all cost.
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Old 05-12.-2007, 10:15 AM   #29
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I too own a pit bull (although it is not an American pit). I am also annoyed by the way these dogs are shown in the press. My Oscar is very human friendly but also never off the lead unless in the country.

I stay in a down town area in Edinburgh and pits and staffys run free. I would agree that if one of these dogs every tried to attack me (with or without oscar there) I would do anything possible to defend my self.
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