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Old 16-05.-2007, 01:09 PM   #1
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Cool You Power Profile

I have read a lot of about the Coggan Power Profile being a poor predictor of actual results. I thought I might start a thread where we can post our own results of our power profile test. 5 sec, 1 min, 5 min, 20 and 60 min. Pure power numbers, not power to weight. I think that power to weight has its place, but doesn't do justice to flat races and crits.

Please be honest!!

Forgive me if this has been done already, I did a search and all I could find was a thread on LT power.

What to post:

Age:
Category:
Weight in pounds:
Years you have been training seriously: (yes that is subjective)
Avg weekly training hours:

Best power in
5 sec:
1 min:
5 min: normalized and standard power
20 min: normalized and standard power
60 min: normalized and standard power


To get things started here are my numbers.

Age: 30
Category: 3 (first year)
Weight in pounds: 193
Years training: 3
Avg Weekly Training hours: 8.5

Best power in
5 sec: 1437
1 min: 702
5 min: 566, 522 NP
20 min: 374, 414 NP
60 min: 308, 330 NP

In cycling peaks I am a high cat 4 for 5 sec, high cat 4 for 1 min, middle cat 2 for 5 min, and low cat 4 for 60 min. Probably because of weight issues. I don't do well in hilly races, of course. In crits I am consistently in the top 5 in cat 3 races...well most of the time. I have no idea if these numbers are good bad or in between. Any info you can provide is helpful.

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Old 16-05.-2007, 03:01 PM   #2
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Age: 23
Category 4
Weight: 142
Years Training: 2
Avg weekly training hours: 8-12

Best power in
5 sec: 733
1 min: 474
5 min: 322 average / 355 normalized (??)
20 min: 285 average / same normalized
60 min: 260 average / 274 normalized

Not a fan of 1 hour tests, so I could probably do better there. Short term numbers are bad, but I'm working on it. Not sure about the 5 min normalized number. I'd be very surprised if I could do that. Seems like a bad NP number.

5 second numbers are in the untrained area. 1 min numbers are Cat 5ish, and the 5 min and 20 min numbers are on the border between Cat 3 / 2. I've only done collegiate races really this season, in the B category. Consistantly survived selections and made it to the end of races. My crit experience is more spotty. Only Cat 4 crit I've done this season I struggled in. The numbers probably explain why.
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Old 16-05.-2007, 10:23 PM   #3
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Category 4
Years trainings: ~2.5
Hours per week: 10-15
Weight: 163 lbs
Power measurement device: PT

5 Sec: 1227
1 Min: 521
5 Min: 368
20 Minute: 323
60 Min: 302

My 5 sec, 5 min, and 60 min numbers are generally cat 3. 1 Minute, cat 5. I have the strength, but need to learn how to race. I am always there at the end, but have a lot of trouble with positioning into the sprint.
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Old 17-05.-2007, 01:28 AM   #4
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Age: 48
Category: 2
Weight in pounds: 148
Years you have been training seriously: >30
Avg weekly training hours: 7

Best power in
5 sec: 930
1 min: 540-580 (depends on how I'm training)
5 min: 355 AP (you shouldn't trust normalized power over such a short duration)
20 min: 320 NP/310 AP
60 min: 312 NP/300 AP
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Old 17-05.-2007, 03:45 AM   #5
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Age : 36
Weight in Kg : 75
Years training : 3 (only the last winter went to power instead of HR)
Weekly hours : 10

5 sec : 1152
1 min : 651
5 min : 517
20 min : 358
1 hour : 298 (but never went all the way for one hour)
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Old 17-05.-2007, 04:37 AM   #6
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This is great stuff. Eventually I will take all of this and put it in a spreadsheet. Thanks for the replies.
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Old 17-05.-2007, 04:44 AM   #7
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Age: 17
Weight: 143 lbs/65 kilos
Yeahs Training: 1.5
Average Weekly Hours: 12? Estimated.


5 Second: 1108
1 Minute: 520? Never really done a 1 minute full effort.
5 Minute: 380
20 Minute: 335 NP/330 AP (no full gas efforts recently. CP model predicts 340)
60 Minutes: 325 Np/N/a for AP, CP-Monod predicts 330
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Old 17-05.-2007, 04:45 AM   #8
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Age: 40
Category: 1
Weight in pounds: 170
Years training: 25
Years racing: 21
Avg Weekly Training hours: 8 - 12

Best power in
5 sec: 1334
1 min: 653
5 min: 400 (AP)
20 min: 321 AP, 344 NP
60 min: 275 AP, 321 NP

All these numbers are from an elevation of 6000 - 7000', in theory the 5-60 minute numbers would be higher at sea level. In 2003 at sea level for example, my 20 minute AP was 349W, or roughly 10% higher.

Also, the 275W AP 60 minute effort is just the highest hour I happen to have done recently. It was during a 30 mile breakaway in the middle of a 4 hour road race. I haven't tested 60M power or done a 40k TT in the last 6 months.
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Old 17-05.-2007, 05:03 AM   #9
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Age: 20
Category: USA Cat 1
Weight in pounds: 167
Years you have been training seriously: (yes that is subjective): 2
Avg weekly training hours: 15-20

Best power in:

5 sec: 1462 watts
1 min: 802 watts
5 min: 495 AP
20 min: 405 AP, 412 NP
60 min: 379 AP, 398 NP

I race halfway decent in flat and rolling road races, crits I'm okay. Time trials and breakaway riding is my favorite though, a good solid day in the saddle. I think Coggan's chart is pretty damn accurate, it places me in the Cat 1 range for 5 and 1 min power, and Cat 2 sprint and FT power.

On another note, someone can do 550+ watts for 5 minutes! That's some serious power, no matter what the weight of the rider. You have some potential for sure.

***Edit: SRM Pro powermeter, calibrated slope and checked 2x this year individually and by SRM service center in CO.

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Old 17-05.-2007, 05:22 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by EpicriderGMAC
someone can do 550+ watts for 5 minutes! That's some serious power


The highest figure I see above is 517 W, but either way, you're right: that's some serious power (enough to be competitive at the world level in the pursuit, assuming reasonably low drag anyway).
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Old 17-05.-2007, 05:24 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by acslater
This is great stuff. Eventually I will take all of this and put it in a spreadsheet. Thanks for the replies.


Yeah, all we need now are about 10,000 more responses - and to verify that all of the #s are right, of course - and we'll be able to put together some power profiling charts!
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Old 17-05.-2007, 05:25 AM   #12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EpicriderGMAC
Age: 20
Category: USA Cat 1
Weight in pounds: 167
Years you have been training seriously: (yes that is subjective): 2
Avg weekly training hours: 15-20

Best power in:

5 sec: 1462 watts
1 min: 802 watts
5 min: 495 AP
20 min: 405 AP, 412 NP
60 min: 379 AP, 398 NP

I race halfway decent in flat and rolling road races, crits I'm okay. Time trials and breakaway riding is my favorite though, a good solid day in the saddle. I think Coggan's chart is pretty damn accurate, it places me in the Cat 1 range for 5 and 1 min power, and Cat 2 sprint and FT power.

On another note, someone can do 550+ watts for 5 minutes! That's some serious power, no matter what the weight of the rider. You have some potential for sure.

it'd be nice for folks to state what PM they are using too. PT vs. SRM will introduce -10W or so. Power-estimators don't count at all .
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Old 17-05.-2007, 05:26 AM   #13
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Age: 38
Category: polish masters, age category
Weight in pounds: 172/78kg
Years you have been training seriously: 3
Avg weekly training hours: 12-16

Best power in:

5 sec: 1177 watts
1 min: 645 watts
5 min: 434 watts
20 min: 359 AP, 391 NP
60 min: 314 AP, 368 NP

Never really done steady all-out 60min effort. FTP from Monod = 355W
Edit: PowerTap SL
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Old 17-05.-2007, 05:30 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by acoggan
The highest figure I see above is 517 W, but either way, you're right: that's some serious power (enough to be competitive at the world level in the pursuit, assuming reasonably low drag anyway).

op's is 566W AP or 522 in case AP/NP were reversed
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Old 17-05.-2007, 07:24 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by acoggan
The highest figure I see above is 517 W, but either way, you're right: that's some serious power (enough to be competitive at the world level in the pursuit, assuming reasonably low drag anyway).
Andy, your statement is a little unclear. Are you saying that 517 W is enough to be a world level pursuiter (given low drag, etc)?
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