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Join Date: Sep 2006
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I don't buy the argument that WADA and Operation Puerto should stop because they are sullying cycling's reputation. The sport has ruined its own reputation. The only way to make things better is to clean it up. I don't care if football/basketball/athletics are dirtier. Cycling is my sport and I don't like seeing these guys screw with it. If you think there is no problem, just consider this partial list:
Basso Ulrich Pantani Landis Heras Museeuw Camenzind Casagranda Garzelli Aitor Gonzalez Hamilton Millar Rumsas Frigo Vandenbroucke Virenque Zulle Bruylandts Armstrong If you believe that Armstrong with his six positive B samples and Riis (ie, Mr. 61%) were doping, then the last 11 Tours were tainted by scandals involving the winner. Nine of the last 11 Vuelta winners have failed tests. Six of the last 11 Giro winners have failed tests (excluding Simoni's two wins because he was cleared). My solution is to provide amnesty to people who want to clean up the sport. Let people like Riis and Vaughters speak candidly without fear of getting banned. The UCI should also be removed completely from regulating anything to do with doping. The UCI is only concerned about the image of cycling. They have an inherant conflict of interest. First, they want to make it seem as if doping doesn't exist and are prone to overlook or deny problems. Second, if somebody does come clean like Basso, they refuse to give a lighter sentence and in effect encourage riders to deny their guilt. I love this sport. I just don't plan on sitting around quietly while other deny the existence of a huge problem. Quote:
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Maryland, USA
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Scotland
Posts: 216
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Perhaps if what someone 'did wrong' involved repeatedly constructing false stories to evade being exposed, and basically lying through their teeth about what they had done, then it is maybe right to ban that person from practicing their chosen trade / sport. Less for the original mistake / crime and more for the obvious lack of any form of trustworthiness that the behaviour implies. At least some of the riders (Millar) are willing to say 'okay I've been caught, I will have to take the punishment'. The preposterous, twisting, turning, tornado of 'creative scenarios' for the evidence, that have spouted from Basso, Landis and Hamilton et al, is not only bewildering (that they think anyone is going to believe that kind of crap) it devalues the individuals moral currency to precisely nothing. |
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Why do they cheat...for the money!!! for the money!!! for the money!!! They almost all dope so if one decides not to dope, he doesn't have a chance in hell to win...and they want to win.
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Scotland
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Or better still, the testing regimes shall be made more efficient and they will all be forced onto a drug free 'level playing field'. |
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 21
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Unfortunately as with all pro sports guys take performance enhancing drugs. There is too much on the line not to, especially when that is your bread and butter. If you are on the cusp of being a top athlete wouldn't you do it? The percentage of these guys getting caught has been very low. Why not chance it? Punishment of this crime needs to be a permanent ban. I suggest setting a date and let these guys know that anyone testing positive from this day forward will be forever banned from the sport. Apply that to the amatures as well. None on this 2 year or even 3 months stuff (baseball). Set a date.
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