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Contador had serious head injury from crash a few years ago. He had an unconcious episode in 2006. He still rides. |
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Hi Thunder, By your standard what would make Roman's story really great is if you didn't even know about it at all. I guess you think Saul should have prevented word of his coma getting out. As for putting it down in a book, blame me, not him. You are so far off the mark on some of these statements you are making that you have no idea. As for the "gullible public" buying Saul's book, lots of readers have told me their life was actually improved by reading his story, some of them in very concrete and measurable ways. Imagine that. Dave Shields http://www.DaveShields.com |
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I stand by my thoughts. Americans put out books. Contador, Feillu, Pantani, Museeuw, Sunderland, all had life threatening, and career threatening accidents, I think they all involved getting ploughed over/through by motor vehicles. Does the fact I heard about it, make my point a contradiction? Nup. Just read cyclingnews, gotta expect a little cycling news, when the site is www.cyclingnews.com dude. Yeah, those folks would buy those "Self Help" books too probably and think Tony Robbins is the next coming. Biggest fraud of an industry EVER. Everyone has just adopted an Armstrong marketing 101 model. But Raisin, from what one gauges on public utterances and information, seems like a great person, and a humble one. So, I would like to see him back on the bike, and taking the risk. I reckon he will. Give it 18 months. He will be back. |
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Excuse me for misunderstanding that you feel like it's okay to hear about stories like these as long they're not in a book. I'm sure that makes plenty of sense to you. I guess it doesn't need to make sense to anybody else. Dave http://www.DaveShields.com |
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Yes, and the people that write and publish these books just want to get the story out so that others can be inspired. They usually sell them at cost or donate all profits to charity. ![]() |
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It was a pleasure for me to be able to donate a pic for the book and a great cause. Saul is a great guy and Dave is a great writer. |
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Apparently I've stumbled into the twilight zone. Thunder and Cranky will probably be thrilled to learn that Saul hasn't yet earned anything in royalties from this book, and neither have I (I'll admit, that wasn't the plan going in). Along the way we've become great friends, donated some money and time to charity, and inspired more than a few people. Whether you approve of any of that or not, I'm done with this discussion. Goodbye. |
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Something to be considered: if Raisin had fared better in the National Time Trial rather than finishing last, I'm sure the CA doctors and Legeay would have deemed him fit to continue riding competitively for CA...
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I think that is a good thing Dave. Just giving another side of the coin tho. And Joe Lindsay wrote about this too. |
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yes, might have seen a slipping of "ethics" with such expedient incentive. |
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I think I'll go read that book now. Last edited by Crankyfeet : 25-11.-2007 at 01:04 PM. |
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A simple concussion is usually no big deal, many of us have been knocked out for a minute or two. What happened with Saul was a horrible injury and, brain injuries tend to be cumulative in severity, and with each one the likelihood of re-injury increases.
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I also don't buy that they were worried about liability. That is why god created waivers.
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Lawyers created liability waivers and they are a good tool but don't always apply especially when you have expert opinion that provides forseeable and avoidable dangers. Some state courts don't even recognize these type of contracts as valid. Unfortunately!
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