Food before and after a ride..

BradUF

I do and it tastes like nothing. All it does is make your pancakes syrupy but the syrup has no taste. It tastes better to just put nothing on the pancakes to begin with.

BradUF

Oh, I know lifting weights will do nothing for my heart but if I build muscle then I will burn a little more fat and I wouldn't mind being somewhat buff. Atleast not have twigs for arms anymore.

jamesstout

there isn't really much truth in that build muscle burn fat theory i have read papers on it but i can't find them now. Your time is better spent burnign cals. If you wanna get the 'ole upper bod buff go swimming/surfing (if you are in AUS?).

im a big adovcate of honey i got that list off bodybuilding.com i added yogurt and fromage frais! shoudl add dried fruit museli honey rice cakes white potato any fruit game meat (get kanga in aus it is AWESOME) we should start a new thread...

BradUF

So should I wait until after I have lost my weight to start lifting weights?

jamesstout

yeah you cant gain muscle mass in a hypocaloric state

BradUF

Ok, I changed my diet more along the lines of what you all have suggested and my cals are even lower now, about 1600 a day but my carbs are high. Is this ok?

Total: 698 Fat: 8 75 11% Sat: 2 15 2% Poly: 3 30 4% Mono: 2 21 3% Carbs: 136 503 75% Fiber: 11 0 0% Protein: 23 94 14% Alcohol: 0 0 0%

BradUF

Here is my consumed vs burned chart...




03/01 is wrong, don't have any data for that day.

jamesstout

for weight loss shoot for 60/20/20 c/p/f or up the proteina bit if you like but you are much better

can you do a sample day again?

BradUF

Yeah but it will have to wait until Monday because my eat weird after I have been drinking. So if I don't get 60/20/20 will I still lose weight if my cals are in the 1700 range?

jamesstout

yeah you'll loose weight but the advantage of protein is that it has a higher thermogenic affect i.e. takes clas to digest and carns will allow you to train. dont be obbsessive you have got to plan for a few days then youll soon get the idea and you'll be flying. lol at the drinking!

oh btw i burned 4,500kcal riding today you could do that.....

BradUF

4,500?? I usually only burn about 700 cals a ride. I will not be able to ride for a while it has been raining since Friday but I am going to go join a gym and do Spin class.

matagi

Do you mean after drinking alcohol? If yes, you need to modify your alcohol intake as well - that's just empty calories. I'm not saying don't drink at all, but you should try to limit yourself to a couple of drinks only. Especially if your eating is weird after drinking - you could undo all the good work of the week by eating poorly on the weekend, particularly if you don't ride on the weekends.

On the c/p/f ratio - I reckon 50/30/20 is ok too. Use these as a something to aim for particularly the day before and the day after a long ride to allow your body to recover. Basically in order to lose weight you need to take in fewer calories than you burn it's as simple as that. As far as the c/p/f ratio goes this is not a rigid formula, some days you might find your fat intake is higher and other days you might take in less protein and fat and a whole heap of carbs.

BradUF

As far as the drinking goes I only drink liquor now. Sometimes mixed into a soda or something. I don't eat bad after I drink, just my eating pattern is weird because I get up at like 3pm.

BradUF

I think I gained 2-3 pounds. Might be the scale though...