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Old 05-01.-2007, 06:40 PM   #31
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You're starting to make me a believer! That's awesome progress! But have you been able to maintain power on the bike?

I've haven't tested my power stats, but my quick answer would be "no". I realized early on that I'm going to sacrifice some power at this time in order to reach my main objective - less mass to propel on the bike. Once I achieve my weight goal and can return to a more balanced diet, I foresee my power returning to a reasonably normal level. Best thing will be that my power-to-weight raito will have increased and that's the effort worthwhile!!
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Old 06-01.-2007, 05:28 AM   #32
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I've haven't tested my power stats, but my quick answer would be "no". I realized early on that I'm going to sacrifice some power at this time in order to reach my main objective - less mass to propel on the bike. Once I achieve my weight goal and can return to a more balanced diet, I foresee my power returning to a reasonably normal level. Best thing will be that my power-to-weight raito will have increased and that's the effort worthwhile!!
You're a fast responder. More POWER to you! Yes, that was a pun.
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Old 07-01.-2007, 07:55 PM   #33
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I swimming "low weight"? I carried a couple buckets of water yesterday; they're weren't so "low weight". Pushing water with hands, arms and legs can get anaerobic VERY quickly. Swimming, like running, could be either aerobic or anaerobic depending on how FAST you're going relative to your ability. Sprint swimmers look different than endurance swimmers, that's for sure. Further, if you are deconditioned, even swimming slowly could send you to an anaerobic zone very quickly, for example. Then you'd be developing Type II fiber.


The difference is that I was in the bucket, not carrying it - there is a big difference.

I think the majority of my swimming is aerobic as I usually breathe every third (or often fifth) stroke. When I start breathing every second stroke I feel that I'm around my AT.
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Old 08-01.-2007, 09:17 AM   #34
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The difference is that I was in the bucket, not carrying it - there is a big difference.

I think the majority of my swimming is aerobic as I usually breathe every third (or often fifth) stroke. When I start breathing every second stroke I feel that I'm around my AT.
Get a HR monitor and tell me. Maybe you're just genetically Type II dominant. What is your upper arm girth measurement?
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Get a HR monitor and tell me. Maybe you're just genetically Type II dominant. What is your upper arm girth measurement?


Never measured my max HR swimming, but I usually swim at around 110 to 130 bpm (HR band will only stay on if wearing a wetsuit). My cycling max is 199. Upper arm girth measurement is 29 cm.
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Old 08-01.-2007, 12:46 PM   #36
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Never measured my max HR swimming, but I usually swim at around 110 to 130 bpm (HR band will only stay on if wearing a wetsuit). My cycling max is 199. Upper arm girth measurement is 29 cm.
Okay, how much has swimming grown your arms?

Find out your swimming HRmax, too. Cycling and swimming HR max are often very different.
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Okay, how much has swimming grown your arms?

Find out your swimming HRmax, too. Cycling and swimming HR max are often very different.


It's not so much the arms as the rest of the upper body. Probably an additional 4 kg (I weigh 74 kg, 177cm tall). I can only use the HR monitor with the wetsuit and my upper body has grown too big to fit in it. I suspect my upper and lower body may have a different ratio of Type I & II fibres. When I did tri's I weighed 67kg, was a 50th percentile swimmer, 5th percentile cyclist and 33rd percentile runner.
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Old 16-01.-2007, 02:43 PM   #38
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Tony, I don't know if I matched your time frame but I've just dropped from 96kg to 80 kg @ 1kg/week to 83kg then 2kg/month to 81kg but now I'm still losing it at 1kg/month now at 78kg. Even over christmas it didn't stop. I hope you're still on track and that your plan pays off. I'm already breaking less equipment I just need to revise the plan to maintain my size now.
P.S. I just took a guess at a new diet and measured the results, modified accordingly. I really should get a hrm at least to try to keep up to date.
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Old 16-01.-2007, 04:03 PM   #39
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Tony, I don't know if I matched your time frame but I've just dropped from 96kg to 80 kg @ 1kg/week to 83kg then 2kg/month to 81kg but now I'm still losing it at 1kg/month now at 78kg. Even over christmas it didn't stop. I hope you're still on track and that your plan pays off. I'm already breaking less equipment I just need to revise the plan to maintain my size now.
P.S. I just took a guess at a new diet and measured the results, modified accordingly. I really should get a hrm at least to try to keep up to date.

Congrats to you! I definitely relaxed during the holidays (current weight 186) but I'm not concerned that I will reach goal of 180 by the end of February.

What has been your protocol for the consistent weight loss? Myself and others would be interested to know...
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Old 18-01.-2007, 11:32 AM   #40
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I've shifted from a high protine,eat what I want diet with a high load, sprint, technical (mtb) workout to a high carb eat all day and cycle comute of 40km.
I am quite habitual and once I started, measuring the progress was easy, I had to add a few more snacks and I still have big salt cravings. On the bike I've been reworking my cadence and pedaling technique. NO SPRINTING oops only when I can't resist.
I've done this because I believe I can be just as fast and lighter, riding lighter equipment with less breakage. If I can't then I guess I'll just put it all back on again!
Lots of measurements!
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