Proof positive that Bu$hCo = Nazism

bulaboy

It is probably in the millions.

Don't believe anything you read in the mainstream media, see on TV or hear on the radio. Try to get your "news" from alternative sources.

jhuskey

I would agree with your statement about the media and add the internet also.

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bulaboy

The difference being that in the MSM everyone is suckling from the same teat, and on the internet differing viewpoints can be found.

The problem is in the way that we "learn". When we are exposed to new or different info, we compare it to all the other info (or misinformation as the case may be) stored in our heads. Then if the new data is consistent with what we already "know", we believe it. If not, then we conclude it must not be true. It can be very difficult for people to change their minds about something, particularly if it threatens their sense of security. Add to that, there are lots of people out there who would rather believe a lie as long as it is a comforting lie, rather than have to think.

jhuskey

Also consider that everything you hear or see or read is not necessarily a complete lie or the complete truth.

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Wurm

I've said the same thing as bulaboy many times here. For instance: the MSM were told not to show the bodies of dead US servicemen coming back from Iraq & A'stan, and they've gone along with it instead of digging for the truth as is their job. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perl...that old crew from the Nixon days learned the lesson from Vietnam: not to show the Merkun public the real results of their warmongering on TV, lest it be halted by the People.

david is also right about the PNAC'ers. Here's their website: http://www.newamericancentury.org/

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bulaboy

Good point.

Carrera

Let's be clear: Racism is when you look down on other people or consider other people inferior just because they're dark-skinned or have oriental features e.t.c. That's not something I condone.
Nationalism is another kettle of fish. Myself, I'm not a racist by any means but I am nationalistic in the sense I don't believe in mass, liberal, open-door immigration and believe putting your own people first, working for a decent minimum wage, rather than importing cheap, slave labour and creating a sweatshop economy.
The trouble is, when you oppose all this mass immigration, people accuse you of racism as an easy option.

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Carrera

I didn't agree with the way Bluetrain tarnished all Palestinians with the same brush so I agree, in all cases, you have to be careful about over-generalising.
However, what gets up my nose is when certain groups of people or certain ideologies appear to be "open game" and, in such cases, nobody calls for such and such a person to be banned or censored in the media.
Clearly there are some strange double standards going on in society.
Here's an example:
I can't figure out why the BBC, when reporting from Iran, have their presenters dressed in Middle Eastern guise, the female reporters wearing headscarves and flowing dresses. Then, when the BBC reports from the U.S.A., the reporters don't wear a 10 gallon hat! Neither do they wear skull caps when reporting from Telaviv.
Kind of stange.
So, why do reporters have to wear different clothes when reporting from Iran or even about Iran?
Another point is why is it not racism if Ken Livingstone insults, say, Jews or Americans or the Welsh since, to my mind, he's behaving no better than the BNP.
Final point: How come a woman on an airline can't wear a tiny crucifix and loses her job but other airline workers can whatever religious symbols or clothes they desire?

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wolfix

The use of the word racism is so over used that it really has stopped being effective today. Nationalism is entirely different, but the two can be tied to each other.
I see nothing wrong with nationalism. I believe in taking care of your own first. But let'd be real about this.... The USA is dependent on immigration. The anti-illegal immigration movement is this country {USA} smacks more of racism then it does of nationalism .
The same people that scream that they want illegal immigration stopped are the same people that line up to purchase the services of illegal immigrants. They want the services, they just don't want to see "dirty Mexicans" providing it. I have seen this so often it makes me want to laugh.

Personally I think the labor unions need to start organizing the legal immigrants.

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Carrera

I can't figure how come Bush rushed out in his pyjamas when America came under attack. If he already knew the attack was going to happen, how come he didn't hide in his bunker before the planes were heading in his direction?
I admit Bush probably exploited 9/11 for his own objectives but the idea he was involved in 9/11 is as crazy a theory as the one about Nero playing the lyre while Rome burned.

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wolfix

Even discussing this is ridiculous. It is reaching to blame Bush for something that was being planned long before he was elected. He was in office for only 9 months when 9-11 occurred. Since this planning began before Bush was elected, then Clinton would have to have been involved...... It gets ridiculous.

But let's look at 9-11 from the viewpoint of the administration that was in power when war was declared upon the US.... And 9-11 was declared war....
We elected this man to be president, to represent the American people and to protect the American people. On 9-11 it was clear cut we had enemies that wanted our destruction. One of the problems we had was identifying the enemies nationality.....
So the next step was attacking the breeding grounds of terrorism. The move into Afganastan was done correctly, but I think it was wrong to not keep a larger force there to stabilize the region more.
Iraq...... The majority of the people in America do not think it was a mistake to topple Saddam. The problem American's have with Iraq is that we have not seen progress. More pressure needs to be put on Iraqians[?] to take over the power structure there.
The idea we attacked Iraq for oil is something that people who hang out in coffee shops pounding on their laptops want to believe. If you look at the cost of war, we could have bought the oil many times over.
This administration has made mistakes. However, the people in America want to have the same feeling of safety that we had before 9-11. And we will elect another guy next time that promises to protect us.

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bulaboy

We all need to adopt a larger perspective if we are going to survive as a species on this planet. One of our biggest hurdles is our tendency to identify with our family, tribe, nieghborhood, pro sports team, race, nation... It is a somewhat more evolved point of view to identify with your nation rather than your local football team, but come on we need to think bigger than that! Everyone on the planet feels their behavior is justified, even those we call terrorists. The reason people do the things they do is because they feel it is justified. That is not a hard concept to grasp. People resort to terrorism because they think that that is the best way to be heard. If we as a nation would respect the viewpoints of others, and listen to and acknowledge their problems, then they would not feel desperate enough to resort to terrorism. We no longer have the luxury of thinking that: economic exploitation in Sri Lanka is not our problem, poverty in Africa not our problem, no air conditioning in the summer in Iraq is not our problem... When the have nots see the disparity between them and the haves, and want to talk about it, we say it's not our problem. We no longer have that luxury folks. We need to replace nationalism with a larger world view.

davidmc

Unregulated immigration under-cuts the job base for less educated individuals. I will not say who these people are, suffice it to say that the democratric party has a higher concentration of constituents holding graduate degree's than the opposing party. It is interesting to note that most of the people in my area I see utilizing immigrants in their workforce appear to be people in pickups w/ Bush bumper stickers on them or large companies who pay slave wages I say fine any person who employs an illegal

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wolfix

The average Democrat is not as well educated , nor has the income base, nor net worth of the average Republican in this country.....

A large part of the Democratic voting block is in your ghetto's .... Explain how they are educated or have great jobs.

The business people in this country lean strongly to the right.

You may have a select group of universty people who vote Democratic who have degrees, but they are a very select group.

As far as people using illegal immigrants in this country, a good portion are contractors. I was one for 20 years and I can tell you that they are Bush supporters. And I can tell you why they use the Mexicans...they show up for work, they are more honest, and the jobs get done.

I live in a extremly diverse town. Since the immigrants have came here they have improved this town. My town has always had a minority population, but it was never a force in the makeup of the business community. We recently had a mass movement of Bosnians and Mexicans move here. New businesses are popping up all over. Older housing is being renovated. They create jobs.

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