Proof positive that Bu$hCo = Nazism

Wurm

That's it exactly.


Well Bill, looks like we're back where we started. I had thought perhaps you'd finally have something useful or intelligent to say. Imagine that!

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BillM

I am on your Ignore list? A dead giveaway that you lose. Thanks for playing.

Wurm

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"Bush is the first President to admit to an impeachable offense."

- John Dean, former Counsel to the President (Nixon)

The aim of big corporations is to separate fools from their money all of the time and ordinary folks from their money most of the time. The rest of us must fend for ourselves.

MountainPro

succinctly put.

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MountainPro

really? why have you hidden it under a bushel all this time?


i hate Bush too...i hate the man on a personal level, i hate the politician and the invasion of Iraq/Afghanistan and the arrogance and ignorance of his adminstratorship.

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Wurm

A good question!

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"Bush is the first President to admit to an impeachable offense."

- John Dean, former Counsel to the President (Nixon)

The aim of big corporations is to separate fools from their money all of the time and ordinary folks from their money most of the time. The rest of us must fend for ourselves.

Carrera

Is that going to get you guys anywhere, though? By that I mean, Wurm is kind of eaten up by his hatred which, in turn, has the effect of making the lukewarm Bush supporters go on to defend Bush - just to wind one or two people up.
It seems fairly clear Bush has had his fingers burned and so has the whole Administration. I think Bush now knows the whole policy in Iraq was a mistake and so I imagine we'll be seeing Hilary in office.
As for personal hate, life is too short for that. I believe you're not gonna convert people to your way of thinking by hatred which is kind of a destructive emotion.

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Carrera

One of these days, someone is going to play a practical joke on Wurm and play the part of an active Bushite online with a pic of Junior for his (or her) avatar. It would be Wurm's alter ego - an exact opposite. Even better - if someone actually pretends to be Junior himself and enters the soapbox.

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cdpatten

It’s funny, Wurm and I both don’t care for bush, but for reasons on the opposite end of the spectrum. For example, Campaign Finance Reform is outrageous (I’m sure Wurm likes it). The Bush Medicare bills are equally outrageous (but again Wurm I’m sure you like the big spending laws). ICANN is going to be an international body, again outrageous. I don’t like that he is letting congressman William Jefferson democrat Louisiana off the hook for getting over 90k in kickbacks… all because congress doesn’t want the police to be able to search their office even with a warrant. I don’t however fault Bush for trying to make us more secure by going to war with Afghanistan or even Iraq.

Our expression of dislike of bush is different of course, as different as a conservative and liberal. For example this is my first post on the topic, and from the looks of it Wurm you are crying about this all the time. I am controlled and not emotional about my dislike, but then again I come from a working family and have had to work very hard for what I have today. Wurm’s blind diehard passion typically goes along with youth or adults “fortunate” enough to have had parents who handed things/life to them. In other words, experts in theory, rookies in practice.

Now onto the issue at hand.


"Under the terrifying terms of the radical new Military Commissions Act, Bush can declare anyone--including you--an "unlawful enemy combatant," a term that doesn't exist in U.S. or international law. All he has to do is sign a piece of paper claiming that you "purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States." The law's language is brilliantly vague, allowing the president to imprison--for the rest of his or her life--anyone, including a U.S. citizen, from someone who makes a contribution to a group he disapproves of to a journalist who criticizes the government.”


Wurm you seem to take great offense with the above notion. And frankly to the dull or uninitiated conspiracy types, it sounds very scary. And yes I will concede, in the wrong hands (bill clinton for example) this has the potential to be very dangerous. Keep in mind none of the Bush administration members are mysteriously dying in plane crashes or committing suicide before they go to trial to testify against him… those were the Clinton staffers.


Getting back to the term at issue. “unlawful combatant” is a term that exists in US law, it is from 1942 when the supreme court ruled on Ex Parete Quirin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Parte_Quirin). I believe the actually phrase in its entirety was introduced by the house in March of 2005 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.1076.IH:). Its funny the article uses a phrase it got from a law and then says it doesn’t exist in law… funny right? Silly liberals... you guys will say anything.


Maybe you would prefer the bush administration call the enemy “super bad meanies”? Seriously, if your side is taking issue with the actual words then you’re a fool and need to get a girlfriend/boyfriend (whatever your preference). You have way to much time on your hands. If you take issue with the powers given to the president you should take issue with congress, and the MANY democrats that voted to give bush these powers alongside their republican counterparts. The Bush administration was given the above powers by congress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_combatant).


Now let’s talk about these “horrible” powers bush has. But first let me bring up another historical figure (aside from your friend Hitler). You may have (maybe you haven’t) heard of one the greatest US presidents, his name was Abraham Lincoln and he is the REPUBLICAN who ended slavery in the United States. He did this by taking the nation to war against itself, because he recognized that the enemy was coming from within (in this case much of the south). As a tool to win the war he suspended Habeas Corpus in 1861. I know, I know you, you don’t know what that is, but its very important and a corner stone of the US legal system. (read about it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus)


That is quite a drastic measure to take against all Americans wasn’t it? Did it last forever? No. Was it necessary to win a war? Yes. I know I’m glad with the results, no more slavery, are you? I know my Muslim friends are going to be happy when people don’t look at them and say terrorist, but they also recognize that before this happens we need to stop the terrorists! It’s amazing you are having trouble with this notion. I actually think you do get it, and your just scarred we might lose. So I’m sorry that you don’t have the testicular fortitude to fight, but history will show us that the isolationist approach and just appeasing doesn’t always work (RE: World War II, North Korea, etc. etc.).


Now onto your silly theories about republicans stealing elections. Do some research. Gore wanted to throw out 1000s of servicemen and women votes during the 2000 Florida fight (he went to court to try). Why? Because the military is historically republican and it would hurt his chances. After the election the Sunshine law was in effect and after full recounts by liberal papers Bush still won. Yikes! With the next election any doubt or confusion about the population putting him in office ended when bush was clearly RE-ELECTED.

As for fraud. Democrats (not republicans) across the country have been caught using deceased people in various counties as voters in almost every major election during the past 12 years. This is not just my opinion, this is fact. Do a quick google search and you will see it… even the NY Times has reported on it. Stopping fraudulent voters is a republican agenda not democratic one. The republicans are the ones who want picture IDs to stop multiple votes, illegal aliens from voting, or deceased voters voting. The democrats are the ones who are against stopping the fraud. We can speculate why the minority wants to get in fraudulent votes, but I think we both know the answer.


Republicans aren’t stealing the elections, you people are (fortunately) just the minority. That is why your “evil” Fox News Channel ratings crush the other two networks combined. The majority of people in the country don’t agree with you. They agree with me. And they should, who wants to be wrong or on the wrong side of history? Not me, that’s why I disagree with you.


Maybe your friends agree with you, but you just don’t have enough to matter. You need to let it go. All your anger and hatred doesn't matter 1 cent, and at the end of the day you are just hurting yourself mentally and physically. In the scope of things you are a nobody and always will be, so just enjoy life, have fun, and every couple of years vote for whoever seems most like stallin. Seriously though, maybe bill was correct and you should look into prozac, or just get laid once and a while. You seem like a really angry guy.


As for me, I'm off to go to the gym... I plan on enjoying my day here in cold boston, ma.


-C

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I hear the Bush administration is confident they are going to win next month. Step off ledge Wurm.. don't do it man. don't jump!!!

Billsworld

CD....LOL, Dont wate your time being a member of the cycling forums underground resistance. The opposition army is led by Limerikman. Eventually Vice president Wurm will drive you over the edge and Lim will threaten to blow you up. Put on your raincoat because right now your being surrounded by the left wing circle jerk. Thebluetrain is stll cleaning himself up after the last blast by Lims army of rainbow shirt wearing socialists.

Felt_Rider

Why do we torment ourselves Bill?
Is it the same enjoyable frustration of solving a puzzle?

Or do we entertain ourselves by seeing what the nutcake(s) will copy & paste next from the conspiracy theory blogs?

Oh well....anyway I did my absentee ballott last night just to make sure my vote will be in process before November. (translation for the conspiracy theorist - Felt_Rider just mailed his ballott which is good for at least 100 GOP votes and a reduction of at least 100 Democratic votes)

wolfix

Thank god for the internet conspiracy websites... they keep guys like Wurm off the streeets and in their mother's basement where they belong.

If he truly believes that the evil Republicans are going to suspend the Costitution and take over the streets in a military way, would'nt he be afraid he would be subject to their evil because of his internet postings?

Maybe he considers himself a Patriot......

Wurm ..... big Brother is watching you ..... yeah.... Right now.....

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Carrera

One thing I noticed is that Boogers seems to have been missing for a while. he was Wurm's number one commander in chief.

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Billsworld

If you look at the hours of Wurms posts , it looks like he never sleeps. Either that or he has a team of basement dwelling loosers with the same email doing cut and paste articles from left wing websites. The team is instructed to never answer a direct question , and when confused just go on a rant about Dick Cheney and Haliburton. The reality is that He is more likely to be a trust fund baby that rather than live up to the shadow that his daddy cast, he chooses to be a communist nut job that spends too many hours dominating the soapbox of a cycling forum........Hey no circle jerk yet maybe I cann take off my raincoat