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Old 22-09.-2006, 07:15 AM   #16
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When you say "here", I don't think you mean the U.S. I mean afterall, aren't aliens..Green?

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Old 22-09.-2006, 07:27 AM   #17
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i read somewhere that we (humans) differ from Chimps on a DNA level by only 1.5%

that explains why i feel this urge to eat fleas from the heads of other people.

I do recall before I could talk, I had this urge to pull down my right eyelid when I was mad at someone.


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Old 22-09.-2006, 11:15 AM   #18
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I believe humans always existed as homo sapiens. Originally we were hunter-gatherers. We lacked technology but we always had languages - not grunting.
The oldest civilization I know of was ancient Egypt. These were black people with a sophisticated culture and a vast knowledge of mathematics and astrology. This was thousands of years ago.
Not only that. According to some ancient texts in Sanskrit there may well have been a civilization before that destroyed itself.
So, I think Darwin made a huge leap in logic from apes to men. Just because apes seem more like us than canines or bears, doesn't necessarily mean we evolved from them.
Of course, I may be wrong.



Look up Sumerian civilization.
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Old 22-09.-2006, 01:07 PM   #19
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Yes, evolution is baloney.

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Old 22-09.-2006, 10:31 PM   #20
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That's Von Danikenism. God was an astronaut e.t.c.

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Old 22-09.-2006, 11:19 PM   #21
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That's Von Danikenism. God was an astronaut e.t.c.

or to put it another way, its a crock of sh!t.
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Old 22-09.-2006, 11:28 PM   #22
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i used to have this neighbour who was very religious. She wasnt always this way but one day she just 'found God'....

now she used to have conversations with God. I dont mean praying, she said that God sits on the edge of her bed and she discusses her problems with him for half an hour then he goes off to visit some one else....

i used to think she was a basket case but she was utterly sincere.

I know that science utterly refutes the theory of creationism but this woman is just as adamant as the sceince bods. So whats to say that God didnt create the illusion of science to give the 'high maintenance' people something more solid to go on.

I mean if you didnt believe in God (or aliens on the moon who create people) and you didnt believe in science (evolution) where do you do from there?

nah, God or little green men, whatever pokes your pig...just go with what you beileve and say off the ganga for feck sake...
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Old 22-09.-2006, 11:34 PM   #23
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Proud member of The Raelian Movement. All life on Earth isn't the result of random evolution. Nor is it the result of a supernatural god. All life, including us, was created by alien scientists from another planet. To learn more, go to http://www.rael.org and download a free e-book starting with "Intelligent Design: Message from the Designers".
A "religious" website which also sells jewelry. Weird huh?

http://www.rael.org/e107_plugins/vs...ucts.php?cat=32

I wasn't aware aliens were that fashionable.
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Old 22-09.-2006, 11:46 PM   #24
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Some humans evolved from apes. Some were unsucessful.
So thats where my body hair comes from.
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Old 23-09.-2006, 12:09 AM   #25
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I believe life originates from an intelligent force but not exactly a man with a beard sitting on a cloud. The trouble with religion is people seem to have a need to personify a creator so the creator becomes just like us with the same feelings and sense of logic.
To counter the bad things that take place, people then go on to attribute the bad stuff to the devil while God has to be good in the way we view good.
You can maybe find God in Mother Nature. If you respect nature and other animals that share the planet, you can harnass it all for good. If you disrespect Mother Nature, then tragedy follows, famines, environmental issues and wars.
People look at Katrina and ask why it happens but, in reality, it's we who are poisoning the planet. Surely we were given sufficient intelligence to be aware of this.

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i used to have this neighbour who was very religious. She wasnt always this way but one day she just 'found God'....

now she used to have conversations with God. I dont mean praying, she said that God sits on the edge of her bed and she discusses her problems with him for half an hour then he goes off to visit some one else....

i used to think she was a basket case but she was utterly sincere.

I know that science utterly refutes the theory of creationism but this woman is just as adamant as the sceince bods. So whats to say that God didnt create the illusion of science to give the 'high maintenance' people something more solid to go on.

I mean if you didnt believe in God (or aliens on the moon who create people) and you didnt believe in science (evolution) where do you do from there?

nah, God or little green men, whatever pokes your pig...just go with what you beileve and say off the ganga for feck sake...
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Old 23-09.-2006, 12:13 AM   #26
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I don't think science is at a stage it can refute creationism. We don't even fully understand how time functions yet.
I don't think the world was created by a man with a white beard on a cloud but I think there is some intelligence that gave rise to order in the cosmos. But probably we're talking about intelligence not as we know it. Maybe people deep down know there is some intelligence behind life and therefore personify a concrete being as a creator.

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i used to have this neighbour who was very religious. She wasnt always this way but one day she just 'found God'....

now she used to have conversations with God. I dont mean praying, she said that God sits on the edge of her bed and she discusses her problems with him for half an hour then he goes off to visit some one else....

i used to think she was a basket case but she was utterly sincere.

I know that science utterly refutes the theory of creationism but this woman is just as adamant as the sceince bods. So whats to say that God didnt create the illusion of science to give the 'high maintenance' people something more solid to go on.

I mean if you didnt believe in God (or aliens on the moon who create people) and you didnt believe in science (evolution) where do you do from there?

nah, God or little green men, whatever pokes your pig...just go with what you beileve and say off the ganga for feck sake...
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Old 23-09.-2006, 12:20 AM   #27
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1) I believe humans always existed as homo sapiens.

2) So, I think Darwin made a huge leap in logic from apes to men.
1) Me too. Humans are homo sapiens, but that has nothing to do with proving or disproving evolution.

2) That is a huge leap on your part, not the scientific community. It's not as large of a leap when you also consider: Australopithecus afarensis, Australopithecus africanus, Homo rudolfensis, Homo habilis, Homo ergaster, Homo erectus, Homo heidelbergensis, and our ill-fated cousin Homo neanderthalensis.
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Old 23-09.-2006, 12:24 AM   #28
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I believe species evolve in the case of wolves to domestic pooches e.t.c. But Darwin saw similarities between humans and apes and then made a direct link. Today, the majority of the scientific community still show those graphs of apes to cavemen to modern humans e.t.c.

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1) Me too. Humans are homo sapiens, but that has nothing to do with proving or disproving evolution.

2) That is a huge leap on your part, not the scientific community. It's not as large of a leap when you also consider: Australopithecus afarensis, Australopithecus africanus, Homo rudolfensis, Homo habilis, Homo ergaster, Homo erectus, Homo heidelbergensis, and our ill-fated cousin Homo neanderthalensis.
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I believe species evolve in the case of wolves to domestic pooches e.t.c. But Darwin saw similarities between humans and apes and then made a direct link. Today, the majority of the scientific community still show those graphs of apes to cavemen to modern humans e.t.c.
So you believe in the evolution of every species except humans?

You keep speaking of Darwin like he is the only source for information. Again, his works are almost 150 years old. Please broaden your horizons to include data from the last 150 years as well.

The graphs you speak of are very simplistic representations, and do not at all reflect the magnitude of studies in evolution. For instance, am I to adamantly believe that this is an accurate representation of God?
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So you believe in the evolution of every species except humans?

You keep speaking of Darwin like he is the only source for information. Again, his works are almost 150 years old. Please broaden your horizons to include data from the last 150 years as well.

The graphs you speak of are very simplistic representations, and do not at all reflect the magnitude of studies in evolution. For instance, am I to adamantly believe that this is an accurate representation of God?


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