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Old 11-09.-2006, 05:04 AM   #31
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In the Guardian? Some of what she said was true. She picked a bad time to say it though.
I was never a fan of Steve Irwin's.I'm sorry he was killed in such a bizarre fashion though.
I'm sure he was sincere in his conservation beliefs and less motivated by money than GG accuses him of being,but I've always found that it's best to leave wild and possibly dangerous animals alone and watch them from a distance.
I much prefer David Attenborough's style.Less "showmanship" and more reverence.
I don't much like zoos either,actually.


Pretty much agree word for word. Damn!!
She could have let the poor guy grow cold first. I was pretty indifferent to Irwin, but I am sad it happened.
I used to see a lot of rays when swimming, spearfishing etc as a kid. If ever the "they are more frightened of you.." etc applied to an animal it would be the stingray. They spook and take off at the slightest provocation.
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Old 11-09.-2006, 05:15 AM   #32
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Pretty much agree word for word. Damn!!
She could have let the poor guy grow cold first. I was pretty indifferent to Irwin, but I am sad it happened.
I used to see a lot of rays when swimming, spearfishing etc as a kid. If ever the "they are more frightened of you.." etc applied to an animal it would be the stingray. They spook and take off at the slightest provocation.
Did you ever go spear-fishing down at Rapid Bay? I lived down that way as a kid.We used to see Rodney Fox (after the noah took his leg off) trying to get revenge.
Eventually he gave it up,realised that they were only doing what came natural to them and in fact,he became an ardent conservationist and champion for sharks.
Rays aren't bad eating though...



PS. Pass on Ray Martin though....too oily.
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Old 11-09.-2006, 05:25 AM   #33
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Did you ever go spear-fishing down at Rapid Bay? I lived down that way as a kid.We used to see Rodney Fox (after the noah took his leg off) trying to get revenge.
Eventually he gave it up,realised that they were only doing what came natural to them and in fact,he became an ardent conservationist and champion for sharks.
Rays aren't bad eating though...



PS. Pass on Ray Martin though....too oily.


Yeah, spear-fished and scuba-dived (dove, whatever) @ Rapid Bay a few times. The jetty is closed now which is a tragedy, although they are mooting a new one. Used to see stacks of rays off the old Brighton jetty, where I spent most of my summers. You would see a big one skulking around and finally someone would rake up the courage to dive-bomb off the old tin roof, which would put the frightners into the poor old ray.

Don't know about eating ray martin... filleting and cleaning would be a bitch.
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Old 11-09.-2006, 05:41 AM   #34
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Yeah, spear-fished and scuba-dived (dove, whatever) @ Rapid Bay a few times. The jetty is closed now which is a tragedy, although they are mooting a new one. Used to see stacks of rays off the old Brighton jetty, where I spent most of my summers. You would see a big one skulking around and finally someone would rake up the courage to dive-bomb off the old tin roof, which would put the frightners into the poor old ray.

Don't know about eating ray martin... filleting and cleaning would be a bitch.
You'd have to skin him too,and he'd have to have a pretty thick hide.
Nah,wouldn't bother...just cut'im up for bait.
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...getting back on topic, though, don't we all see divorce lawyers more like those slimy eggs in "alien"...just waiting for it to pop open and then your stuck with a bony legged, acid spewing, throat-throttling thing on your face with some sort of umbilical cord down your gut until it finally falls off your face and when your out at dinner, all of sudden your ex-wife is breaking out of your stomach and your, like, dead on the table without having enjoyed a whole meal...or is it just me...?
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...getting back on topic, though, don't we all see divorce lawyers more like those slimy eggs in "alien"...just waiting for it to pop open and then your stuck with a bony legged, acid spewing, throat-throttling thing on your face with some sort of umbilical cord down your gut until it finally falls off your face and when your out at dinner, all of sudden your ex-wife is breaking out of your stomach and your, like, dead on the table without having enjoyed a whole meal...or is it just me...?


on topic??? Dude!! go do some anger management
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on topic??? Dude!! go do some anger management



He doesn't need anger management. His reaction is about normal when dealing with an ex ,however I find that fact that he considers not getting a full meal the worst part about dying a horrible death. Very interesting!
Kind of has a Freudian thing.
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Kind of has a Freudian thing.


If you say so. I was thinking more equal parts stream of consciousness/Eric Cartman from Southpark.
But that's just me being a boorish Aussie, by crikey. We do tend to say crikey a lot. And stray off-topic.
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If you say so. I was thinking more equal parts stream of consciousness/Eric Cartman from Southpark.
But that's just me being a boorish Aussie, by crikey. We do tend to say crikey a lot. And stray off-topic.

i gotta say, slightly off topic that Fatboy has the coolest profile image i have ever seen, i wish i had thought of that...

yeah, steve irwin...a tragedy.
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i gotta say, slightly off topic that Fatboy has the coolest profile image i have ever seen, i wish i had thought of that...

yeah, steve irwin...a tragedy.


not nearly as cool as il pirato
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He should never have pulled that stunt with his kids. However, his heart was in the right place and he did a lot to help protect animals. He knew a good deal about animals and, of course, was very entertaining in his presentation. In the end, his death came down to bad luck as he was carrying out a reasonably safe activity.
I agree 100%, however it also be noted that there were 2 camera angles and the child appears much closer in one over the other. Most people would of only seen the camera angle that made the child appear to be closer.

Australia Zoo is where he has been put to rest.
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I can't fault the guy for his heart being in the right place. I do think, though, that so much interaction with wildlife dulled his sense of caution to the point he was playing with fire too often.
Let's be clear: No matter how experienced you may be, animals will always have a vast physical advantage via evolution. There's not a cyclist on this forum who could outsprint a big cat or move fast enough to get out of the way of danger. Ask any Spanish matador. 96 per cent fight bulls daily without any tragic consequence but a small percentage have been nailed and gored.
Steve struck me as coming to believe he alone was immune.
I have a quotation I read where he stressed there was no way he would lose control with these crocs, gators or venemous snakes. He totally dismissed the whole idea he had put children in danger and then went so far as to say he wanted them to lose all fear of animals. Hell, we have this fear because we were evolved to have fear. The fear in us evolved because animals can be deadly.
The video shoot shows Steve with his eyes off the croc for 8 seconds at least and looking to his side nervously as he dangles the kid. If the croc had really wanted to, it could have taken his leg in just 2 seconds.
Anyone who believes he's faster than these wild animals or immune is kidding himself. That's what my brother used to say till he finally got stung by his lionfish. Now this latest news about people killing rays is madness. These animals were never intended to be observed up close and they cannot help being as dangerous as they are. Their sting is their only defence to stop them being wiped out by other predators. They are to be observed, but not approached.

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I agree 100%, however it also be noted that there were 2 camera angles and the child appears much closer in one over the other. Most people would of only seen the camera angle that made the child appear to be closer.

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I can't fault the guy for his heart being in the right place. I do think, though, that so much interaction with wildlife dulled his sense of caution to the point he was playing with fire too often.
Let's be clear: No matter how experienced you may be, animals will always have a vast physical advantage via evolution. There's not a cyclist on this forum who could outsprint a big cat or move fast enough to get out of the way of danger. Ask any Spanish matador. 96 per cent fight bulls daily without any tragic consequence but a small percentage have been nailed and gored.
Steve struck me as coming to believe he alone was immune.
I have a quotation I read where he stressed there was no way he would lose control with these crocs, gators or venemous snakes. He totally dismissed the whole idea he had put children in danger and then went so far as to say he wanted them to lose all fear of animals. Hell, we have this fear because we were evolved to have fear. The fear in us evolved because animals can be deadly.
The video shoot shows Steve with his eyes off the croc for 8 seconds at least and looking to his side nervously as he dangles the kid. If the croc had really wanted to, it could have taken his leg in just 2 seconds.
Anyone who believes he's faster than these wild animals or immune is kidding himself. That's what my brother used to say till he finally got stung by his lionfish. Now this latest news about people killing rays is madness. These animals were never intended to be observed up close and they cannot help being as dangerous as they are. Their sting is their only defence to stop them being wiped out by other predators. They are to be observed, but not approached.

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I beat the ass off a big cat last week.I think it was a Persian. Big one with yellow hair.Fluffy type.
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Some big cats can run at 60 miles an hour. I have a hard time cycling at 27 mph.
My dog used to ram home the physical superiority of animals when we went jogging together. While I was red in the face busting my ass uphill, he would stop and watch me with curiosity, cock his leg up against a tree and then run off ahead.

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