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Steve Irwin dead(The Croc.Hunter)

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Old 06-09.-2006, 07:25 AM   #16
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That's true they like their meat aged a bit. He is thinking of divorce attorneys.
If you fall into a pool with crocs at one end and divorce lawyers at the other...swim towards the crocs.Your chances of survival are much better.
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Old 06-09.-2006, 07:48 AM   #17
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The Crocodile Hunter apparently died from a Sting Ray wound to the chest. I always thought he would be eaten by something eventually but still..........
A sad day for me! I liked his style and his antics.
I will miss seeing him on the TV.


I was sorry to read of Irwins untimely death, too.

I liked his programmes and I liked his way of presenting.

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If you fall into a pool with crocs at one end and divorce lawyers at the other...swim towards the crocs.Your chances of survival are much better.

The divorce lawers will leave the carcus, so it can can provide for the next decade or so. With the croc its over and done with.
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Old 07-09.-2006, 02:17 AM   #19
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Mixed feelings about the guy. More importantly, his heart was in the right place and he did a lot for animals in general while connecting with the public. However, I still think the criticism of him dangling a toddler in front of a croc at feeding time was justified and that Steve was mistaken in his belief he was always in control of these situations. I've seen the film shown one or two times and you can see he's definitely looking away as the croc takes the food, the toddler still under his arms. Neither did he look so balanced on his feet.
Years ago, I used to keep dangerous animals such as piranahs and even lionfish that can sting. I almost graduated to stonefish which are deadly. One of my party tricks was to clean my piranah tank out with a syphon and unprotected hands and when people told me I was crazy, I'd reply I was also in control.
I realise now that wasn't true. In fact, my brother was stung by his lionfish and had to go to hospital.
In evolutionary terms, animals are always faster, stronger and more unpredictable than humans. Sooner or later you'll get nailed unless you treat then with a healthy dose of fear.
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Old 07-09.-2006, 04:40 AM   #20
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"Crikey!!" My wife and I were both shocked and saddened by the news of Steve's death. We enjoyed watching his shows on the TV. He will be missed by many. Such a "freakish" way to go, I suppose, BUT he was doing what he loved doing. RIP, Steve.
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Old 07-09.-2006, 05:31 AM   #21
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Dasyatids generally do not attack aggressively or even actively defend themselves. When threatened, their primary reaction is to swim away. However, when they are attacked by predators or stepped on, the barbed stinger in their tail is mechanically whipped up. This attack is normally ineffective against their main predator, sharks.[1] Humans are usually stung in the foot; it is also possible, although less likely, to be stung by brushing against the stinger. The stinger may break off, which is non-fatal to the stingray, and will be regrown. Contact with the stinger causes local trauma (from the cut itself), pain and swelling from the venom, and possible infection from parts of the stinger left in the wound. Injuries to humans include, but are not limited to: poisoning, punctures, severed arteries and possible death. Fatal stings, such as that which killed Australian naturalist and television personality Steve Irwin in 2006, sting to the heart are extremely rare. As of 1996, worldwide known deaths from stingray barb injuries numbered 17.[3] As of 2001, there was only one documented instance where a person survived a stingray injury to the heart.[4] In the case of stings to the heart, it is the site of injury and the nature of the wound that prove to be fatal, not merely the venom of the stingray.

Treatment for stings includes application of near-scalding water, which helps ease pain by denaturing the complex venom protein, and antibiotics. Immediate injection of local anaesthetic in and around the wound is very helpful, as is the use of adjunct opiates such as intramuscular pethidine. Local anaesthetic brings almost instant relief for several hours. Other possible pain remedies include papain (papaya extract, contained in unseasoned powdered meat tenderizer), which may break down the protein of the toxins, although this may be more appropriate for jellyfish and similar stings. Folklore incorrectly holds that one should urinate on the stung area; in actuality, urine and vinegar are not effective treatments.[5] Pain normally lasts up to 48 hours, but is most severe in the first 30–60 minutes and may be accompanied by nausea, fatigue, headaches, fever and chills.

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[QUOTE=Carrera] Sorry Carrera, but a revised edition of your post is needed.....


I used to keep dangerous animals such as "ex-wive's" and even "girlfriends" that can sting. I almost graduated to "2nd wiife " which are deadly. One of my party tricks was to clean my "ex-wife's purse" out with a syphon and unprotected hands and when people told me I was crazy, I'd reply I was also in control.
I realise now that wasn't true. In fact, my brother was stung by his girlfriend and had to go to hospital.
In evolutionary terms, "ex-wives" are always faster, stronger and more unpredictable than "men". Sooner or later you'll get nailed unless you treat then with a healthy dose of fear.
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Dasyatids generally do not attack aggressively or even actively defend themselves. When threatened, their primary reaction is to swim away. However, when they are attacked by predators or stepped on, the barbed stinger in their tail is mechanically whipped up. This attack is normally ineffective against their main predator, sharks.[1] Humans are usually stung in the foot; it is also possible, although less likely, to be stung by brushing against the stinger. The stinger may break off, which is non-fatal to the stingray, and will be regrown. Contact with the stinger causes local trauma (from the cut itself), pain and swelling from the venom, and possible infection from parts of the stinger left in the wound. Injuries to humans include, but are not limited to: poisoning, punctures, severed arteries and possible death. Fatal stings, such as that which killed Australian naturalist and television personality Steve Irwin in 2006, sting to the heart are extremely rare. As of 1996, worldwide known deaths from stingray barb injuries numbered 17.[3] As of 2001, there was only one documented instance where a person survived a stingray injury to the heart.[4] In the case of stings to the heart, it is the site of injury and the nature of the wound that prove to be fatal, not merely the venom of the stingray.

Treatment for stings includes application of near-scalding water, which helps ease pain by denaturing the complex venom protein, and antibiotics. Immediate injection of local anaesthetic in and around the wound is very helpful, as is the use of adjunct opiates such as intramuscular pethidine. Local anaesthetic brings almost instant relief for several hours. Other possible pain remedies include papain (papaya extract, contained in unseasoned powdered meat tenderizer), which may break down the protein of the toxins, although this may be more appropriate for jellyfish and similar stings. Folklore incorrectly holds that one should urinate on the stung area; in actuality, urine and vinegar are not effective treatments.[5] Pain normally lasts up to 48 hours, but is most severe in the first 30–60 minutes and may be accompanied by nausea, fatigue, headaches, fever and chills.

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Yes, the article I read said that the barb punctured his heart and that's what killed him, not being stung.
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He should never have pulled that stunt with his kids. However, his heart was in the right place and he did a lot to help protect animals. He knew a good deal about animals and, of course, was very entertaining in his presentation. In the end, his death came down to bad luck as he was carrying out a reasonably safe activity.
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He should never have pulled that stunt with his kids. However, his heart was in the right place and he did a lot to help protect animals. He knew a good deal about animals and, of course, was very entertaining in his presentation. In the end, his death came down to bad luck as he was carrying out a reasonably safe activity.

The most dangerous animal he dangled his kid in front of on that particular day was a news camera.
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Get up close to a big saltie and you may change your mind.They can move faster than a race horse in a straight line and can reach up into trees to get trapped animal carcasses.
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Get up close to a big saltie and you may change your mind.They can move faster than a race horse in a straight line and can reach up into trees to get trapped animal carcasses.


You haven't seen Ray Martin in action
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You haven't seen Ray Martin in action
The croc's looking better...
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.... and on the topic of foul, vicious creatures, what did you think of Germaine Greer's little effort?
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.... and on the topic of foul, vicious creatures, what did you think of Germaine Greer's little effort?
In the Guardian? Some of what she said was true. She picked a bad time to say it though.
I was never a fan of Steve Irwin's.I'm sorry he was killed in such a bizarre fashion though.
I'm sure he was sincere in his conservation beliefs and less motivated by money than GG accuses him of being,but I've always found that it's best to leave wild and possibly dangerous animals alone and watch them from a distance.
I much prefer David Attenborough's style.Less "showmanship" and more reverence.
I don't much like zoos either,actually.
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