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nns1400

David, that is just stupid. How does a bunch of lazy kids, living off their parents' money, joining a communist front organization and burning down buildings on their own campus improve the situation? Did you do as much acid as Ruppert?

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nns1400

What is your opinion of communist oppression in Tibet?

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nns1400

Yes, let's be honest. You questioned my ability to have an informed opinion about Cuba, because I had not been there and Lim had, as you take every opportunity to pat me on the head and imply I am such a naive, ill-informed little girl. I disagreed with the idea that you, in Australia, are MORE informed than I am here in America where the topic of Cuba and immigration is discussed and reported on at length, and by more than one point of view I might add, and has been for many years.

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davidmc

I wasn't positively sure but I was correct:

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davidmc

Full speed ahead w/ your generalities then. As an aside, did stalinism get the seal of approval from marx? I havn't ever heard that it did. It was simply a variant of communism if any relation at all. I could make up my own variant if i chose. That doesn't give it legitimacy however.

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George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

nns1400

I think it is the history of communism that leads one to not really be neutral about it.

Is the term "fascist" a neutral description on political belief? Of course not. The Nazis took any neutral description away, as one of the most heinous, evil governments in the history of time. And the neutral description of it is horrible anyway.

As Durangodave pointed out, communism looks terrrible on paper too. And it has a heinous, evil history to rival that of the Nazis. So I will point out where people are being communist apologists. I have done so without very much vitriol, I hope. But I am not trying to be insulting or condescending -- I just think it's true. You have posted enough for anyone on the forum to make their own decision.

And you know what kind of person you're dealing with -- smart and sassy, and not afraid of you! You love it.

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davidmc

Spoken like a true dyed in the wool sheep (apathetic dupe)

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

davidmc

Whic would you consider worse:fascism or communism My state is being run under a quasi-fascist administration

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I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.
George Carlin
US comedian and actor (1937 - )

Durangodave

Marx was pretty clear that society would not proceed from capitalist to communist without some form of intermediate dicatorship. Surely he did not have Stalin in mind. But the immense accumulation of unchecked power is very likely to attract some real low-lifes.

F. A. Hayek wrote a neat little book about this called The Road to Serfdom, a condemnation of the planned-economy and a tidy defense of a "well regulated free market." He's often viewed as a libertarian hero, but Ayn Rand hated him because he didn't go all-the-way, philosophically speaking.

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Wurm

I don't recall from my Marx studies right now, but I wonder if he would have included imperialism as a form of said dictatorship, such as what the US is well on the path to today? Probably not, though I would agree with others who've said imperialism is the end result of unchecked capitalism.

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The aim of big corporations is to separate fools from their money all of the time and ordinary folks from their money most of the time. The rest of us must fend for ourselves.

Wurm

Because it would remind the few in power that there are always many more of "us" than there are of them - by several orders of magnitude. That fact is ultimately the only thing that would keep the power elite from enslaving the population, or deliver us from it.

Isn't that what Jefferson said gov't's main role should be (along with national defense), to be a buffer between the People and the powerful, in order to protect the People from them?

No wonder the Right can't stand so-called "big gov't".


Ruppert has much more credibility than anyone you can produce from the current Repig/Neo Con milieu. Gee, let's see: William Krystal? Bill Bennett? Newt Gingrich? Nope, nope, and nope.

I wouldn't go throwing unsubstantiated slurs about drug abuses if I were a supporter of The Coke-Head/Alcoholic-in-Chief, who BTW is also a military deserter during wartime.

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The aim of big corporations is to separate fools from their money all of the time and ordinary folks from their money most of the time. The rest of us must fend for ourselves.

nns1400

you mean bill clinton?

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nns1400

You didn't answer the question.

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nns1400

I consider totalitarianism the worst! And the people on this forum act as if the US is a totalitarian state, while refusing to recognize or condemn actual totalitarian states, like Iran or Cuba.

Since you are such a stickler for the definitions of words, what do you define as "fascist" and "quasi-fascist." You seem to bandy those words about cavalierly.

Whatever you call him, Bush will be gone in 2 years. Then, we will vote in an election for the next jerk-off we're stuck with for 4 to 8 years, and so on. Whichever jerk-off you choose, you will have someone who is a member of the "power elite," okay? You guys sound like a bunch of sixth grade girls. In fact, David, why don't you run for Miss America so you can get on stage and cry and say "I want world peace!"

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