CyclingForums.com anti-USA, Why?

MountainPro

i didnt mean to offend your highly tuned sense of culture...yesm the Spice Girls are at a level way above most Americans level of appreciation...to you all you see is 5 slappers...to us Brits all we see are....errr 4 slappers and a fat slapper.

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nns1400

What about your World War II veterans? Are they anti-American?

MountainPro

i am not getting into this fruitless arguement...i am not playing off antyhing the UK foiled, or did not foil, according to Carrera against the atrocities of 9/11...




you missed the part when you said that we were niave about terrorism...?

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nns1400

Madonna?

Carrera

My grandfather was in this war. Of course, he died in his eighties of cancer many years ago. Nope, WW2 veterans are not anti-U.S.A. at all. I spoke to some, though, and I know they kind of loathe Blair.

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Carrera

She lives in a fantasy world - likes to think she's an English country gal. I think she prefers New York, though, to any other city.
Madonna is very liberal. I'm a fan but I think she lacked class when she insulted Bush by making sexual gestures onstage. It was a bit crude.
The trouble is, I'm all for peace but I agree with Lance Armstrong. If some dude in a car rides you off the road and nearly kills you on your bike, you can't just offer the offender a bunch of roses.

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nns1400

You know, those people are called The Greatest Generation in my country. Not like the current crop of whiners.

jhuskey

I just received my fathers medals from WWII. Before he died he told me he had not received some of them.
I was fortunate to have his discharge papers and after procrastiation on my part a little red tape rhetoric I received all but one ,which is no longer available.
A purple heart after being wounded twice and the bronze star among a few others.
He payed his dues at the age of 17 and left this world at 67 breaking even with humanity. IMHO

The greatest generation? I am not qualified to answer, but not a generation to be scrutinized by the ones that have followed ,for sure.

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Carrera

You hit the nail on the head. The truth is the rise in living standards in this country has been a good thing but it also made us soft. This is not the same generation that endured bombings in WW2 and fought Nazi Germany with stoic resistance.
The sixties seemed to me to the ideal balance where things got a lot more liberal but there was still social backbone and less people wringing their hands in the sixties.
Look at the athletes too. Roger Bannister had to be the ideal Briton. How could he possibly be compared to Wayne Rooney? Then you had Henry Cooper - I just finished reading his biography. Funnily enough, Henry feels the same way.

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Carrera

We're getting fatter too! Hell, when I was a wee kid, I recall all those grotesque meals - potatoes and cabbage with everything but there was no obesity. Now the kids are blowing up like baloons on pizza, burgers and fries. They outlawed exercise in some schools as they figure it infringes human rights.
Home computers are fun but that's all some kids do which is why they get fat.

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nns1400

Too true! We beat the Nazis so we can all eat ourselves to death.

Wurm

I've seen some lame threads here on CF, but this will be one for the Hall of Fame.

Wot. Da. Fock?...are some of the better members even bothering with it for?

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Carrera

I have a weird philosophy and it's all based on the Spartans. To cut a long story short, the Spartans were an ancient Greek civilization that dedicated itself to physical and mental endurance. The reason behind it was (like modern Israel), Sparta was surrounded by hostile, bigger countries.
For that reason, every Spartan had to be physically and mentally tough to survive. Even the women boxed and wrestled. The food was awful but nobody got fat or obese. It was also considered that intense suffering during training made you stronger and fitter.
In short, it's a good philosophy to adapt to cycling. Plus, the Spartans understood that without some kind of social discipline, society could become soft and defenceless. They took it all to extremes but any dedicated cyclist can adapt the idea of self-discipline and mental toughness into a personal philosophy.

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stevebaby

[QUOTE=Carrera the women boxed and wrestled. The food was awful [/QUOTE]That sounds like an australian pub.

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