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12-08.-2006, 11:55 PM
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Old Ciocc
I've accquired an old ciocc bike, is it any good?
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13-08.-2006, 12:39 AM
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Re: Old Ciocc
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FWIW. I think Ciocc was the first framebuilder "allowed" to use Reynolds 753 tubing. If the frame is more recent, it has a good heritage. |
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13-08.-2006, 12:44 AM
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13-08.-2006, 12:53 AM
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Buy the beer for the next year ... I think that you can easily consider the Ciocc to be as good as a Colnago, Pegoretti & other quality Italian frames in that tier. |
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13-08.-2006, 01:40 AM
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Here's a few pics of my Ciocc. She rides great. Not as old as yours. Mine has Columbus tubes. http://mypinkciocc.blogspot.com/ Ciocc is a small Italian builder...doing low volume, high quality, hand built frames from Italy. very good reputation. Back in the late 80's and early 90's there were a lot of Ciocc frames in the professional peloton. Many were rebadged and disguised as other brands. You may remember the Concorde line of road bikes ridden by the PDM pro team(Sean Kelly, Raul Alcala, Sean Kelly, Gert Jan Thuenisse, and Erik Breukink). Concorde road bikes were really just rebadged Ciocc bikes. Ciocc's were built by a master builder and former racing cyclist. he had earned the name 'Poker Face' during his racing years. Ciocc is Italian for poker face...which is why you see the suits of a deck of cards on the head tube decal(diamond, club, heart and spade). The original master builder has since passed away I believe...and the work has been left to his apprentices. My Ciocc is the one of the best riding bikes I have ever owned. I would love to see some pics of your Ciocc. |
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13-08.-2006, 01:45 AM
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13-08.-2006, 01:59 AM
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Give us some good pics and I should be able to date it for you. If the frame is in good shape then I promise you that it is worth some upgrades. Well worth the money you might put into it to get it into ship shape condition. I'm going to ride the hell out of mine...then send it off for refinishing of the paint and chrome in a few years. I'll ride it for years and years. It fits like a glove too. Joe Bell does a very professional refinishing job. He also does chrome and decals. Probably the best in the business. Check out some of his work.... http://www.campyonly.com/joebell/jb_gallery.html This one is my favorite in the JB gallery.... http://www.campyonly.com/images/joe...s/gallery22.jpg I'm dreaming...just thinking about the possibilities with my Ciocc. I once saw a Eddy Merckxs frame in a shop that had just come back from JB. It looked showroom new. It was so beautiful. I knew then that JB was the best. Last edited by oneradtec : 13-08.-2006 at 02:04 AM. |
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13-08.-2006, 04:08 PM
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Old steel lugged Cioccs (pronounced CHOOCH) are very collectible. I regret having parted with mine 12 years ago. I remember the technical editor of Bicycle Guide (cant remember his name) having a grey Ciocc as his super favorite bike.
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13-08.-2006, 08:03 PM
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I always wanted a Ciocc when I was first racing twenty five years ago. But we always pronounced it Church... |
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13-08.-2006, 09:18 PM
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Re: Old Ciocc
Good mid-80s Ciocc have square-type fork crown lugs and use butted columbus steel.
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13-08.-2006, 11:56 PM
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FWIW. I love Shimano components, but my unsolicited suggestion is that when the time comes, that you grace your Ciocc with either vintage or contemporary Campagnolo components after you have it refinished ... IMO, the old Nuovo Record rear derailleur is subjectively the best looking rear derailleur ever designed. Regardless, I hope you can appreciate how elegant the "current" Campagnolo components would look on your Ciocc frame (as depicted on this MOOTS in JB's gallery): |
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14-08.-2006, 12:27 AM
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14-08.-2006, 05:31 AM
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I'm not seeing the picture for some reason |
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14-08.-2006, 05:33 AM
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Thanks for the comments. I'm not really interested in retro components. That said, I will consider using modern Campy stuff when the time comes. |
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05-04.-2008, 04:34 PM
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Re: Old Ciocc
I am looking at a 1984 or 1985 Concorde road bike. How can I tell if it is a Ciocc-built frame? Pictures are at: Concorde Aquila
Would love to get it if it is a good frame. I like the stamped seatstays and chrome fork. But I don't need another average 80s bike. Matt Quote:
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