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Race numbers - pins or not?

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Old 25-07.-2006, 07:51 PM   #16
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Anybody try something like this:
http://www.sews.com/embroidery/spra...yadhesives.html
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Old 25-07.-2006, 08:09 PM   #17
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What if you get someone you trust to pin the number on for you, while you are wearing the jersey. You could also tuck the top into the pocket before pinning it to stop the wind getting underneath it.
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Old 25-07.-2006, 08:14 PM   #18
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What if you get someone you trust to pin the number on for you, while you are wearing the jersey. You could also tuck the top into the pocket before pinning it to stop the wind getting underneath it.

yes that is what cyclists have done for 100 years, we are looking for a better way.
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Old 26-07.-2006, 03:45 AM   #19
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I started using this stuff for TT's because it was really hard to get a number to lay flat on a skinsuit with pins. Double Sided Carpet Tape, this is the bomb, it works great, doesn't leave any residue on your jersey like the spray stuff. I have used it on numbers that get used over and over again and it retains it's stickyness. After a race i just peel it off and stick the number to a piece of cardboard and use it next time. I still use 4 pins in the corners more for piece of mind than anything else, but the carpet tape works great even when sweating profusely, just make sure the jersey is dry when you put it on.
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Old 26-07.-2006, 05:13 AM   #20
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I'm curious as to how most of you attach your race numbers. Pins are absurd. I fashion my own plastic pockets with velcro tape attached. I've seen some just tape the number to their shirts. And I've seen others use a spray-on adhesive, from Monsanto, I think.

Not to be grumpy, but this is perhaps the stupidest thread I have seen at cyclingforums. Pins, absurd? Others saying it takes so long? Takes me about 60 seconds to pin on my number with 7 pins. Four at the corners, then one pin in-between each except at the bottom. It is a habit, I would use 8 but somehow I got in the habit of using 7.

I do this on the hood or the trunk of my car. Or over the handlebars if I have ridden there...but I must warn you, over my handlebars it might take a grand total of 75 seconds.

Pins are reliable too. A self adhesive - I would be concerned that my number would fall off. Plus the gunk it leaves on your jersey.

If you put the pins on correctly it puts a very tiny hole on your jersey. The rips come when guys try to take their numbers off without removing the pins. That is not the fault of the pins

Put the number on yourself. It ain't that hard. Much easier than putting a tire on a rim. About the level of difficulty of, say, shifting.
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Old 26-07.-2006, 06:52 AM   #21
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Not to be grumpy, but this is perhaps the stupidest thread I have seen at cyclingforums.

Gee, Lio, now you've made me feel bad. What can I say - I find trying to put the number on with pins a major pain in the ass, and then I'm left with a flapping air brake. It seems that I'm not the only one, and I've gotten some good suggestions here, which are much appreciated.
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Old 26-07.-2006, 07:24 AM   #22
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Gee, Lio, now you've made me feel bad. What can I say - I find trying to put the number on with pins a major pain in the ass, and then I'm left with a flapping air brake. It seems that I'm not the only one, and I've gotten some good suggestions here, which are much appreciated.


Don't worry Pendejo, Lio is just typical of the sheep that view progress as unnecessary. Thank goodness some people can look at something that works and ask how it can be improved, otherwise we would still be living as cavemen.


Here is something recommended for race jerseys:
http://www.grizzygrip.com/homepage.html

And it looks like 3M Super77 multipurpose adhesive is the ticket for your skin-suit in a TT, then use goo-gone to remove any residue... it must be good for 60 seconds in a TT . I will find out tomorrow.
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Old 26-07.-2006, 08:27 AM   #23
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This grizzly grip or whatever is probably the carpet tape i talked about, just rebaged as something specifically for cyclists, go to home depot or lowes and pick some up to try it. I find it most useful for my skinsuit during a TT. For me it's not to save time though, it lends itself to a well positioned, no flapping number. Again you might want to use a few pins just to make sure it doesn't come off when sweating profusely, but you probably don't need it.
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Old 27-07.-2006, 01:52 AM   #24
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[QUOTE=wilmar13]Don't worry Pendejo, Lio is just typical of the sheep that view progress as unnecessary.


Um, no, otherwise I would ride a 6 pound steel frame with a 2 pound steel fork with downtube friction shifters. And 36 spoke wheels. None of which is the case.

But again - pins are a failsafe method - glue would not be. Now, if you want to start talking about having chip timing and removing the numbers altogether, now we are talking. Chip timing seems to make more sense than adhesives or glue, don't you think? That would be real progress.

Progress is about doing something better, not about doing something different. Tell me a method better than pins and I will listen. Chip timing - yes, potentially better. But talking about pins taking a long time is silly.
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Old 27-07.-2006, 11:10 AM   #25
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[QUOTE=wilmar13]Progress is about doing something better, not about doing something different. Tell me a method better than pins and I will listen. Chip timing - yes, potentially better. But talking about pins taking a long time is silly.

Well the glue took me about 5 seconds(55 seconds faster than pins! every second counts in a TT ), worked great and I didn't need to bother anyone to help me "perfect" the pins placement so I had no gaps (another 2-3 minutes easy). But I ended up with time 15 seconds over my personal record for the course. So the perfectly flush with skinsuit # is worthless... or it could be that it was humid as hell and I did the first 4 miles at a 32mph pace and blew myself up .

Yes I agree, with your comments about progress but you lambasted the original poster for asking if there was something better than a 100 year old technique for diapers to attach the number. Not very productive to discovering a better way, you have to try different things if you want an improvement over the status-quo. You can stay with pins, I will use the 3M Super 77 from now on.

BTW chip timing is used at this TT series, but you still have to wear a # (for officiating I suppose).
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