Eating Meat (or not)

Ideologue

It only went well for them because most people never question what their beloved leaders tell them, or the controlled lamestream media for that matter.

But, as a crime, 9/11 did not go very well at all; the amount of evidence that exists to absolutely prove the government set the whole thing up is staggering. There are hundreds of ‘red flags’, hundreds of smoking guns. Take a look at the FBI file for Osama Bin Laden (CIA code name: Tim Osman). The FBI does not even want him in connection with 9/11. Give them a call, they will tell you! There is no evidence whatsoever linking Bin laden to 9/11. Osama even condemned the attack and outright denied any involvement in it almost immediately after the events. If you think those grainy videos of what is purported to be him admitting to involvement (including the one with the fat Bin Laden) are genuine, then think again.

Dr. Stephen Jones of BYU, the same Dr. Jones who coined the term ‘cold fusion’ agrees. He is a physics professor who has concrete, irrefutable evidence that destroys the official version (also known as 'the omission commission report'). Recently he obtained samples of debris from the towers (which was amazing considering most of the evidence was straight away, and illegally, shipped to China!). He analyzed these samples and discovered thermate residue on them (his tests have been peer reviewed). Thermate is a specific, and patented, form of thermite. This is an explosive/incendiary material used by demolition experts to cut through steel columns. Those towers were brought down by controlled demolition. There is video that even shows squibs exploding up to 20 stories below the collapse zone. And have you ever timed how long the buildings took to collapse? They fell at close to the maximum speed gravity would allow them to fall, despite the upper sections having to break nearly 100 floors on their way down! Common sense, and the laws of physics, would certainly suggest that each floor would slow down the collapse slightly as it was crushed. But that did not happen. The buildings fell neatly onto their own footprints. If a bowling ball was dropped from the same height, and with only air between it and the ground below, it would not have taken any longer to complete its decent.

The flight manifests (passenger lists) contained the names of no Arabs. 7 of the 19 alleged highjackers are still alive! Another one died the year previously! What the hell caused building #7 to fall?

The Arabs were patsies. They thought they were taking part in an exercise, nothing more. There were many exercises happening that day. Exercises and drills for the exact same scenarios were in progress at the exact same time the actual events, which were being drilled for, occurred. This is for two main reasons: 1) so anyone caught in the act can claim to be a part of the exercise (plausible deniability), and 2) the exercises caused much confusion so the actual plan was permitted to succeed. During the 7/7 London bombings (also a government black-op) exercises for the exact same thing that occurred were in progress at the exact same time in which they occurred, namely bombs going off at specific stations. Again, this allows people (agents) caught in the act the excuse of claiming they were merely partaking in the exercises. The Arabs (patsies) in London, again, thought they were merely hired by a government agency to take part in a counter-terrorism exercise. That was a very bad choice they made. Little did they know that they were being used and the drill was live. And concerning the London bombings: since when does a bomb in a backpack inside a train carriage cause a hole in the carriage floor with the metal sticking upwards? The bomb was already in place, attached to the underside of the carriage.

I could be typing forever on this; there really is that much evidence. But, again, don’t take my word for it go and look at the evidence for yourselves. Go read what government scientists have written on it, former Blair cabinet minister M. Meacher, a former German government minister, hundreds of engineers and academics, former Regan administration people including the scientist who coined the phrase ‘Reganomics’ and the scientist who worked on the Star Wars project when it was still top secret under presidents Ford and Carter.

http://st911.org/

www.infowars.com

www.prisonplanet.com

http://www.reopen911.org/

Go to Google Video, or a BitTorrent site, and download some of the numerous documentaries on this issue. Documentaries such as: TerrorStorm, Martial Law 9-11: Rise of the Police State, Loose Change 2, etc… etc.

And also go take a look at Operation Northwoods. This is a declassified planned operation devised in the early 1960’s that proposed almost the exact same events carried out on 9/11. The plan at the time was to blame Cuba! But Kennedy refused to OK the plan, thus it never happened. It was Kennedy’s refusal to permit Operation Northwoods combined with his intention to disband the CIA, his desire to pull out of Vietnam and also his desire to end the Federal Reserve that ultimately promoted the shadow government to dispose of him.

Definitely time for a paradigm shift. Everything above checks out. Ignorance is excusable, but arguing against something for which there exists such an immense amount of supporting evidence is nothing less than shear stupidity. Anyone who argues against the fact that the government/secret intelligence agencies are responsible for 9/11 is no less than a low-grade moron. I can say that with absolute confidence, there really is that much evidence. If you think Muslims carried out 9/11 then I have a bridge to sell you on the Moon.

Ideologue

So some studies say high protein, in particular animal protein, causes calcium loss and other studies assert otherwise. Well I wonder which of these studies are financed by the meat industry? The Beef Cattleman’s Association has already been caught in the act, as well as the dairy board, of financing studies to reach predetermined conclusions.

I have a copy of Dr. Stephen Walsh’s book ‘Plant Based Nutrition and Health’. The studies he refers to were mostly conducted in the late 1990’s and 2000’s. These studies seem to support the dodgy 1940’s studies to which you pay reference!

Below is an extract from one of them and links to articles with references:









And on diabetes:





Well Soy is certainly a contentious issue. But the fact that Soy might contain IGF-1 does little to mitigate the fact that Cows milk is very high in this deadly hormone. So if people want to avoid IGF-1 they had better avoid Cow milk and to be safe Soy too! No big deal, Soy is not the only plant food available!

Soy has its supporters and attackers, on many fronts. Far eastern people seem to thrive on Soy, but then it is said they know how to prepare it properly, and Western commerce cuts costs and does a poor job in removing the toxicity from Soy. Some say soy helps to prevent many cancers; there certainly seems to be some truth to this. Ultimately I consider a small amount of Soy to be beneficial, provided it is organic and non-GM.



I am not making anything up here. If you want actual scientific papers then follow the references given at the base of the following link (or contact the researchers named therein):

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Knobs like you give vegans and vegetarians a bad name. BANNED. Thank you and good bye

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Felt_Rider

I appreciate the discussion of nutrition in general and even though my diet contains lean meat sources I can appreciate the vegan / vegetarian diet. I have even considered trying a few times, but found it hard to stick with it.

I felt a few days ago that this was steering away from a civil discussion on nutrition to a personal agenda.

Thank you