Totally p*$$ed off with weight

PistachioAddict

update...

Luckily or unluckily I seem to have a lot of muscle I don't deservve to have, good from a metabolism point of view but sometime the hunger is like a raging beast in my belly but I'm learning self discipline.

how interesting to note my reflex to grab something to eat when dealing with a stressful situation at work - I drink a cup of water instead.

I've adjusted the diet it's not so extreme and I feel I'm more in-tune with my requirements. Weight loss of 2.5kg so far.

SportDoc

This is so true for many people-eat due to stress. I used to do that, along with eating due to depression. It is a vicious cycle.

notsofastfreddy

I completely sympathize, but I'm not sure I buy the whole "lift-weights-muscle-burns-more-fat-be-happy" mantra. I'm no physiologist/nutritionist but the article belows seems to ring true.

http://www.runnersworld.com/article...-0-7753,00.html

SportDoc

That article is a little misleading with a slight lean towards the aerobic exercise person. In a average joe, weight-training is just as important as aerobic exercise in health maintainence. The benefits are numerous, beyond looking good in a swim suit as stated by the author at the end of the article. Secondly, only a pencil-neck geek is going to gain 1 pound of muscle mass lifting, you know the type of guy you can crush with your bare-hands. Try adding 30 lbs of muscle for these bean-poles and see what happens to their metabolism. To keep score in calorie burnoff with running is ridiculous and pathetic.

notsofastfreddy

SportsDoc, I don't really disagree with you. There are many benefits from resistance training, I just don't think it should be the primary focus of a weight loss program. No doubt lifting weights is better than lifting a big mac, but that time might be better spent running or biking (if the primary goal is weight loss).

mikesbytes

I really don't think it boils down to a weights vs running vs cycling vs boxing vs .... Once the body is used to a set routine, it tends not to progress past a point and if you find yourself in this situation, you need to change things to get the body working again.

The fastest examples of weight loss I have seen are on people who have maintained moderate exercise while applying special diets. Cutting out sugar or carbs (pretty much the same thing) is a popular solution, but its not the only one. [stick the carbs back in once the correct weight is reached]

On the exercise front, doing the weights will help get the body out of its set routine and provide compilimetary benefits to the cycling. Weights does not have a significant calorie burn [see my diet link and go thru about 2 weeks worth], so I advise against dropping any of the cycling
and if possible do the weights at night and the body will rebuild the muscles while you are asleep.

The running article linked has some good information in it. I'm an ex competitive runner, who goes out for a jog about once a week nowdays. Perhaps one thing that has been overlooked, is that you can run and do weights rather than either.

PistachioAddict, I see you has paid particular attention to heat rate, I have never concerned myself with it and have heard that theres a optimum range for fat burning. How important is keeping within this heart range? Should we vary outside of this on occasions to challenge the body?

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gt3413

Muscle is metabolically active and I would beg to differ that it only burns 4 calories per pound. But, I'd have to see the research 1st and I sure wouldn't go off 1 research article. And, yes, people don't generally put on 1 lb. of muscle, they put on a lot of muscle. So, overall, muscle is beneficial. I don't think its the main focus of a weight loss program but its definitely a good part. It takes all 3 to a certain extent, calorie reduction, weight training and cardiovascular to lose weight. They all 3 compliment each other to accomplish the overall goal.

Good job pistachio addict. I fell into the same trap as you but it took me a long time to get out of it. I eat and drink in response to stress so I have to really watch myself. Keep up the good work. I'm fixing to go ride now. Take care everyone. I expect to be under 225# by Saturday. Exercise and diet are going to get me where I need to be. Thanks, Greg

SportDoc

I was more disagreeing with the article, on a certain level. I would never say that biking/running is better time spent than lifting. It is equal to lifting. Lifting weights helps control blood sugar, pressure (even though it temporarily increases during training), some studies show it helps with blood lipids, it helps with increasing bone density, esp. important in females, improves proprioception (with free weights) which is part of our balance/equilibrium system, it is the primary shock attenuator in the body, etc, etc, etc.

janiejones

Yes, I agree with everybody here, I worked for so long to lose a about six kgs, I think it took two years until, like you I became really annoyed and cut right back on what I was eating - and then I lost about three kilos pretty fast and had put in a lot of work to lose the next three - but once I got to a certain level it seemed to be easier. I have never tried weights though - a lot of people talk about the benefits , I might look into it. Once I said no to cookies and cake - I found it much easier - those damn in between meal snacks.

Keep us informed with how you are going and good luck. I'm still working on mine -another three kilos is the goal.

Also, I was wondering, does you username give you any clues to what you are eating - PistachioAddict - how's the fat content on pistachios?

gt3413

Janie, I don't know about you, but once I get on the right track everything seems easier. Once I lose a little weight or my clothes get loser etc. I get a lot more focused. That's when it seems easier to make good/wise choices more often and my progress continues. You are 100% right about the in between meal snacks (or eating when bored, depressed etc). Those calories add up really quickly. I've currently got quite a bit of weight to lose but I know how I put it on, BAD HABITS! Its not because I'm 37 or because of this or that, its simply that I lost fitness as a priority and made bad choices for a long time. Keep up the good work. I just got back from my ride and I feel great. My legs seem to be getting less tired afterwards. Hopefully I can decrease my off days to 1 per week instead of the current 2. I'll listen to my body and go from there. I can't imagine how much easier the riding will be once I lose about 25-35 more pounds. Good luck everyone, Greg

PistachioAddict

HOLD UP!!

I never said the muscle made me lose weight or that I lifted weights. I lift no weights. I ride my bike 5 times a week between 20 and 60 miles over rolling terrain.

I just seem to have a lot of muscle from lifting back in the days, combined with so much cardio (6-10 hours a week) it seems to be a metabolic double whammy.

all that for just 2.5 kg - but it's the reality - bodyfat is a rich souce of energy. If it wasn't mammals would be extinct

Don't touch the weights any more but I might lift tooo if i can find the time and energy to keep what I have.

JTE83

You seem fast to me, and I can't even do a century. You don't seem to eat much with your posted diet - and you experience hunger? I think you're just to hard on yourself. I don't even workout as much as you do, and right now I'm 149 lbs 5' 4" 16% body fat. I don't experience hunger and I eat well, but I try not to overeat. I only bike now to maintain my weight from overeating. And I enjoy food like cookies, cakes, ice cream, fast food, - even high calorie pecan pie. I just don't overeat.

You talk about body fat but you never posted what % body fat you have. Do you have a Tanita body fat scale? If you don't you should get one. Maybe you already have low body fat so that's why it's hard to lose more weight. You have tons of lean mass from your body building.

Why do you want to become so light weight? Why are you obssessed over this?

I once was obese at 205 lbs.

PistachioAddict

Hi JTE, the diet I laid out was my propesed diet as I had lost patience with my weight but in truth at the time I was eating whatever and thinking riding alone would make the difference.

Big mistake! It helped me lose an initial 3 or 4 kg as I was out on the bike for 6-10 hours a week (and when you're my weight and there are hills on your rides you're never "taking it easy") but I now know you have to look at what you eat (duh! I hear everyone say)

The diet is not so extreme now I was pretty annoyed with myself when I posted that, anger is good though it can give you a push when you need it. Thanks for the encouragement from several people on this thread I will carry on posting progress now and then and a more detailed diet for anyone that might be interested. But right now I'm learning as I go.

83 kg so that's - 3.5kg so far. 75kg would be good.

I eat when feel hungry, but no more than 300-400 calories in one feeding ("feeding" lol), and I always leave at least 2-3 hours between any food intake, but never more than 4 (except when I sleep). What I eat is balanced mainly wholegrain low glycemic carbs, lean meat blah blah you know the drill.

I always ate healthy it was just the timing and the amount I'd eat that was the problem. I've come to realise for example 500 calories does not fill you up for twice as long as 250 calories of the same food - but for less time than that.

I used to come in from a ride and eat a HUGE plate of pasta, 2 hours later I'de be hungry and have cereal (1200 calories and counting) now I might have a smaller plate of pasta, and a cereal bar 2 hours later (500 calories). I am learning as I go.

I eas some fruit and veg but I should more fruit, but they are not appetizing foods to me, so that's the next step.

hsg

detoxing always helps.