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Old 28-07.-2006, 04:56 PM   #16
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Good idea- this year I will move to A grade. I just need about 5,000 more k's and i will be fine. But then i will need to learn to sprint as i will never break away from the A's, on a flat course.

I think actually i will turn up at night with a bull dozer and some quick set and put a cat 4 climb in the middle of the course. Then i think i will get a place every week.
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Old 28-07.-2006, 08:56 PM   #17
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Thats why I said that next time we are both coming back from Waterfall, we should go on the final hill and make sure that James doesn't follow us.

I've entered a race. Ride for Life It uses the corner loop of Centenial Park. A fraction under 3k per lap with a hill going to the paddington exit, 12 laps for a total of 35k and the finish line is half way up the hill. Ideal for you except that you need to be 35+ to race in the vets race. PDF Promo Theres a map somewhere but I can't find it.

Edit: Found the course map. The data on this site doesn't make sense, the 2005 Womans 35k calculates out at an average speed of something like 45kmh, where the 2004 Elite Men 80k has an average speed of something like 34kmh.
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Old 29-07.-2006, 03:39 PM   #18
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You do know he is apparently only 65 kg!

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Thats why I said that next time we are both coming back from Waterfall, we should go on the final hill and make sure that James doesn't follow us.

I've entered a race. Ride for Life It uses the corner loop of Centenial Park. A fraction under 3k per lap with a hill going to the paddington exit, 12 laps for a total of 35k and the finish line is half way up the hill. Ideal for you except that you need to be 35+ to race in the vets race. PDF Promo Theres a map somewhere but I can't find it.

Edit: Found the course map. The data on this site doesn't make sense, the 2005 Womans 35k calculates out at an average speed of something like 45kmh, where the 2004 Elite Men 80k has an average speed of something like 34kmh.
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Old 29-07.-2006, 04:21 PM   #19
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You do know he is apparently only 65 kg!
Actually 64 kg. 14 less than me. So its light weight vs strength.

We would need to catch him unaware. So its a Vet (me) vs a C grader (you) vs a B grader (James). I guess that James would probably out sprint us.

What about the other James and a couple of the Geoff's ?
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Old 29-07.-2006, 04:48 PM   #20
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Last time i saw James racing he was on the lowest handicap. When did he move to B. I also didn't know we was a sprinter much at all. I think i can actually outsprint him.
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Old 29-07.-2006, 05:03 PM   #21
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Last time i saw James racing he was on the lowest handicap. When did he move to B. I also didn't know we was a sprinter much at all. I think i can actually outsprint him.
So he's light, but not strong enough to capatalise on this weight advantage. Anyway I'm just lucky to be able to keep up with you guys.

So what's your latest stategy on forcing breakaways?
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Old 29-07.-2006, 05:21 PM   #22
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Training and losing weight. I can get to 67 easy but 64 is no way (already my ribs stick out now). And a bit of just not bothering and sprinting. And racing on courses with hills.

From the test we did at RPA I know his watt output. I was higher than that last year before I got lazy and changed jobs. So more training is order. Perhaps i will do this 1000k week long trip. I am really out of shape. About 30% below my peak.

James is very fit but hides his strength. Perhaps he should follow Landis and get some test patches-to improve the agression.

Speaking of sprinting the real sprinter at DH is Matt. His thighs are twice as thick as mine. About 90kg of muscle.



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So he's light, but not strong enough to capatalise on this weight advantage. Anyway I'm just lucky to be able to keep up with you guys.

So what's your latest stategy on forcing breakaways?
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Old 29-07.-2006, 05:23 PM   #23
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I forgot to ask?
How was your ride today. Finally the weather is improving.

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Old 29-07.-2006, 05:32 PM   #24
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I forgot to ask?
How was your ride today. Finally the weather is improving.
My sons birthday so I didn't go. I'm also commited tomorrow, so I'm not going on the group ride, but I may go out by myself for a short one, early on.

Did you race at Heffron today? How did you go?
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Not sure who Matt is. I'm not that crash hot with names. Does Matt look fairly muscular and have a tan coloured skin?
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Old 29-07.-2006, 05:46 PM   #26
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That is Matt.

Is that the same son who is the good for nothing (not even buying you grog) teenager?

Does he ride?



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Is that the same son who is the good for nothing (not even buying you grog) teenager? Does he ride?
I assume you are referring to my 16 year old. I'll have to wait another 2 years before I can send him out for a bottle of red. He has an Avanti mountain bike, but just rides local, down to the shops sort of stuff. The mountain bike is the correct size for me, so when he out grows it, I've got a mountain bike. Didn't see you up Newtown tonight.
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Old 31-07.-2006, 10:17 AM   #28
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I went to the courthouse, ended up with 1 hour sleep and 'bonking before the ride'. Nice ride though, good weather, and I did okay in the bunch sprint.



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I assume you are referring to my 16 year old. I'll have to wait another 2 years before I can send him out for a bottle of red. He has an Avanti mountain bike, but just rides local, down to the shops sort of stuff. The mountain bike is the correct size for me, so when he out grows it, I've got a mountain bike. Didn't see you up Newtown tonight.
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Old 31-07.-2006, 10:44 AM   #29
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I went to the courthouse, ended up with 1 hour sleep and 'bonking before the ride'. Nice ride though, good weather, and I did okay in the bunch sprint.
Had to take my 13 year old to soccer, hence missing the ride. I went out later in the afternoon and did a few laps around centennial. I'll be down at Tempe velodrome tonight.
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Old 31-07.-2006, 11:38 AM   #30
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You have a track bike?

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