Israeli: Iran bought missiles from N.Korea

wolfix

Your biological tomatoes need some bacon and lettuce to be matched with the tomatoes DNA.....

And Wurm..... maybe somone should contact your mother and inform her that your Prozac needs to be increased.

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darkboong

Evidence of what exactly ? I have to wonder why the judge allowed that
to be used as evidence... But that's another story.

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darkboong

No, you avoided it because you are a racist bigot.



I was attacked by five Welshman many moons ago, does that count ? The fact is I don't have to go through that every day, I don't have it shoved in my face by the media and bigots like yourself.



In which case you have to explain the prison population demographic of the US. For example : The vast majority of people incarcerated on drugs related offences are black and hispanic. The interesting point is that in police and academic studies it has been found that white people are the most likely to possess drugs.

Explain why the US has the highest number of inmates per capita in the world.
Explain why the US executes the highest number of inmates per capita in the world (that is including China and Uzbekhestan).



It is not my claim. The CPS and Home Office figures make that claim. Yes, they really are getting assaulted out there and at a significantly higher rate than any other ethnic minority in this country.



In which case why won't you accept that Muslims are attacked in the same way ?

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limerickman

To you, Irving may be an academic - but to the rest of us, he's a racist.

If you knew what you were talking about, you'd know that Irving never graduated from any third level institute.

This encapsulates the entire problem with each of your messages here.
You disregard the facts completely - you invoke statements that either half correct or totally wrong factually.

You're wasting our time.

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morelike hypocrisy.

Carrera

Where did I state he was good academic? In which post did I write I agreed with his views (although I haven't actually read the book?)
Limerickman, I'm afraid your argument has me totally confused. At one moment you and Darkboong are defending the President of Iran who declared the holocaust was "a myth". You recently published a statement by the Iranian President which you apparently intended to project him as a man of peace, although he described the holocaust as a myth?
The same as Irving or different?
I , for my part, stated I disagree with imprisoning any historian for holding controversial views no matter what my own opinion might be. The duty of other historians is to demonstrate why he was wrong and censorship under penalty of prison has no place in any free society.
There is also a huge difference between Irving's status and the Iranian President's. Irving isn't intent upon acquiring nuclear weapons.

limerickman

I never stated that you called him a good academic.
I said that you referred to Irving as an academic.

You referred to Irving as an academic in message 161 on this thread.

Irving is not an academic.

And no one who knows what they're talking about would ever refer to him as such.
You did in message 161.



message 161.




Where did I say that the Iranian President's view re Holocaust was correct?
Can you show me where I defended his comments on the Holocaust?



I printed the full text of the Iranian Presidents letter to the US President.
Tell me where I referred to the Holocaust and the Iranian Presidents views?

If you cannot provide a link - I want you to withdraw your false accusation.




You're waffling as usual.

I want you to put up where I defended the Iranian Presidents comments re Holocaust.

You also need to address point one of the reply about the false assertion concerning "good academic".

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morelike hypocrisy.

darkboong

I can not recall either myself or Lim defending the President of Iran. I can recall some occasions where I called him Stupid, and Naive though. You are lying again Carrera. Poor deluded Carrera, so twisted in the head that you don't know truth from lie anymore.

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Carrera

Sure...............

Carerra - You've failed to address the very serious allegation that you directed against me and DB.

limerickman

Carerra,

You falsely accused me and darkbong of supporting the comments of the Iranian
President re the Holocaust.

You made statements about David Irving being an academic.

You're posting false statements again, Carerra.

And we're tired of your continued obfuscation.

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morelike hypocrisy.

Wurm

Interesting that the video taken from across the road at a gas station was confiscated by the FBI immediately after whatever-it-was hit the Pentagon. Why hasn't that video been played by the Main Stream Media?? No, you will see only The Official Government Version displayed for your consumption.

There are equally as many (if not more) eye-witness accounts of what hit the Pentagon that describe it as something other than what BushCo's gov't says it was.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/77_deastman1.htm

...and that is just one source.

How convenient (and again - disingenuous) that you picked the easiest author to discredit, Thierry Meyssan. I suggest you take on others such as David Ray Griffin and Michael C. Ruppert, et al. Those you will not find so easy to dismiss out of hand.

BTW - this is only one of the literally DOZENS of inconsistencies and convenient coincidences that you have yet to adequately address vis-a-vis 9-11. In future, please try to do better.

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wolfix

Wurm , you are a nutcase. Simple as that. There were many witnesses that spotted the object as a plane. My brother was just several blocks away. There is no doubt it was a plane.

* a note to the moderator...... You threaten Carrera with elimination all the time for his supposedly twisting of facts. Yet Wurm is allowed to post things which have no basis in fact. A difference in opinion is one thing and that is what forums are all about. But his postings are drawn from sources that carry no attempt at anything then twisting the truth.
The Soapbox has dwindled down to just a few posters. I believe it is because of his postings that carry so little truth it makes a newbie feel foolish reading such garbage.
And to dwell on the same thing over and over.

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limerickman

I think it was a plane that crashed in to the Pentagon Building.

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morelike hypocrisy.

Wurm

Yes, there IS doubt as to what type of aircraft it was - and plenty of it. Perhaps to your brother there isn't any, but that doesn't surprise me knowing what your family political leanings probably are.

Your repeating "nutcase" over and over does not answer the salient inconsistencies that exist - whether you like it or not - and with not only the whole Pentagon/Flight 77 case but so much more of the 9-11 events and evidence.

I have attempted to simply present the facts as they are known, such as they are and as difficult as they may be to comprehend, about 9-11. I will gladly stand corrected if you can show what "things" I have posted "which have no basis in fact" on this topic.

Although with many of the links I have given from time to time I do not agree wholeheartedly with, they are not "twisting" the basic facts about 9-11, one of those being the FACT that the damage done to the Pentagon was not consistent with an airplane the size of Flight 77 (a Boeing 757).

So Carrera and wolfux, explain:

1. How the crash of the Pentagon would be the only case in the history of aviation when after the collision not a single piece of the plane is recovered because all the plane is melted in an explosion, which oddly enough does not affect the green grass on the field right in front of the building. And where are the bodies of the passengers?

2. How a plane of that size and with such a wide wing span makes a crack on the building which is at least 50% smaller that the size of the plane. In other words, how is it possible that the wings and the motors did not touch the building?

3. How a plane of that size and characteristics gets into the most heavily guarded air space of the US and no single civil or military radar cares to wonder what is it doing there.

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lyotard

www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#main

the number of those searching for 9-11 truth grows, esp. among the college student demographic.

www.911Truth.org

it has been put forth by an ever growing number of insider authorities this was an inside job, and it is speculated conspiritors are bound to come forward at some point...

www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/270605insidejob.htm

yet the recently released (as a result of a lawsuit challenging the withholding of this footage) film shows little conclusively.

it is thought this is the time to substantiate this issue as the us has it's cadre of leaders chomping at it's collective bit to induce yet another ploy of an event from which to exploit, and justify a military invasion.



[QUOTE=Wurm]Yes, there IS doubt as to what type of aircraft it was - and plenty of it.

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