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Old 26-08.-2007, 10:58 AM   #271
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jim, not to get too personal here but what are your stats? height/weight/age...

not too personal at all... i am 50, i weigh 209 pounds, i am 185 cm (73 inches) tall....

after a day of pricing components at the LBS (not all that local... it's 90 miles away).... i ended up buying another bike and have decided to build up the Schwinn with components off e-bay.... LBS's just want tooooooo much for the parts .... so, the Varsity will be upgraded... it will just take a few more paydays.... then i will likely give it to my oldest son ... or... hook it up to the trainer... who knows....

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Old 26-08.-2007, 03:37 PM   #272
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an update: with 400 miles on my Varsity (new style not old) absolutely no problems.... 10, 20, 30, mile rides all flawless. having said that...

This being a light weekend for me... i have stripped the bike down to the frame for a good cleaning and preventive maintenance check. for those who want to know... the frame (with only the bottom brackets still in the frame) weighs 4.9 pounds (U.S.) Fully assembled it weighs 26 pounds! (there is some chubby componentry in there, folks!) My goal for this weekend is to get the fully assembled weight down under 20. So, tomorrow... a trip to the LBS to look at forks, crank sets, handlebars, brakes, shifters and wheel sets.... (already changed out the original seat, seatpost and pedals to a Brooks B-17 Champion seat, a Specialized 220x27.2 carbon post and crank brothers Eggbeaters pedals.)

dang! this is fun. i love wrenching. almost as much fun as riding!

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Being a fan of the the chicago varsity and remembering the idea was to get adults into cycling at the college level I guess naming this the way they did was appropriate.While I personally believe if you can find a better deal by buying a used bike and upgrade,this ready from day one bike may get a few old guys out of their pickup on a bike.Not a bad idea considering gas prices and obesity problems.
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Old 27-08.-2007, 12:13 AM   #273
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not too personal at all... i am 50, i weigh 209 pounds, i am 185 cm (73 inches) tall....

after a day of pricing components at the LBS (not all that local... it's 90 miles away).... i ended up buying another bike and have decided to build up the Schwinn with components off e-bay.... LBS's just want tooooooo much for the parts .... so, the Varsity will be upgraded... it will just take a few more paydays.... then i will likely give it to my oldest son ... or... hook it up to the trainer... who knows....

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yeah, I found that you only build up a bike yourself for one reason... to get the certain bike that you want; not to save money because buying a whole bike is always cheaper... if you look earlier in this thread. one guy built up the varsity using parts that he bought from the LBS and ebay and you could have bought a low end brand name for that. So he got what he wanted but I don't think that he really saved anything by not buying a bike from an LBS.
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This thread has been really helpful to me - I need a bike for everyday commuting (on and off trains and buses for some legs) and want to upgrade to a hybrid or road bike with a lighter frame than the 2-ton Raleigh I currently use. Unfortunately I am forced to lock my bike outdoors while at work (albeit in a safe area), so I am not willing to do that with a >$500 purchase. Also, it has been difficult finding an inexpensive used road bike for my height (why are craigslist sellers always so TALL?!?). So I am now planning to order the Dawes.

Can anyone comment on sizing for the Dawes Lightning Sport? Chicabike would suggest a SM for my height (5'5"). I tested a SM mens Diamondback Century at my LBS (I think it was listed as a 44 cm) and it felt a little too small but not overly so. Sizing (in cm) seems to be a little strange on these flatbar road bikes. Any advice on whether to order the SM or M Dawes product on Ebay? My inseam is 29-30". Also, what is going on with those "short length" bikes? At my LBS in place of a M Century I tried a different M-sized frame, which seemed to suit me better except that my feet hit the wheels when I turned?! I don't plan to bike to work in clip-toe shoes - is this something I should watch out for?

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... I need a bike for everyday commuting (on and off trains and buses for some legs) and want to upgrade to a hybrid or road bike with a lighter frame than the 2-ton Raleigh I currently use. Unfortunately I am forced to lock my bike outdoors while at work (albeit in a safe area), so I am not willing to do that with a >$500 purchase. Also, it has been difficult finding an inexpensive used road bike for my height (why are craigslist sellers always so TALL?!?). So I am now planning to order the Dawes.
WHICH "2-ton Raleigh" are you currently using? AND, do you feel that the frame fits you, or vice-versa?

How long is the (virtual, if sloped) top tube on your current bike?

How long is the stem?

If your Raleigh (or, any-brand for others who might be interested) is a "road" bike AND the frame fits, then you can probably reduce the weight to the 24 lb. region without too much effort ... more money (still, well under your alloted budget) should result in a lighter bike (~22 lbs.).
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I've been back at school here at University of Texas at Austin for just one week, and I've noticed 2 or 3 vintage Varsities, and one new Wal-Mart Varsity. Looks like a solid commuting/campus bike.
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This thread has been really helpful to me - I need a bike for everyday commuting (on and off trains and buses for some legs) and want to upgrade to a hybrid or road bike with a lighter frame than the 2-ton Raleigh I currently use. Unfortunately I am forced to lock my bike outdoors while at work (albeit in a safe area), so I am not willing to do that with a >$500 purchase. Also, it has been difficult finding an inexpensive used road bike for my height (why are craigslist sellers always so TALL?!?). So I am now planning to order the Dawes.

Can anyone comment on sizing for the Dawes Lightning Sport? Chicabike would suggest a SM for my height (5'5"). I tested a SM mens Diamondback Century at my LBS (I think it was listed as a 44 cm) and it felt a little too small but not overly so. Sizing (in cm) seems to be a little strange on these flatbar road bikes. Any advice on whether to order the SM or M Dawes product on Ebay? My inseam is 29-30". Also, what is going on with those "short length" bikes? At my LBS in place of a M Century I tried a different M-sized frame, which seemed to suit me better except that my feet hit the wheels when I turned?! I don't plan to bike to work in clip-toe shoes - is this something I should watch out for?

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Its really a question of time and location. With a little patience,prayer and persaverance anyone can find the right bike for any situation. Networking can help too. Find out if there is a local bike club in your area. A few are full of bike snobs, but most are full of wonderful people excited at the chance to assist someone in finding the perfect bike to fit their need. They can explain what to look for and what you need to avoid.Check yard sales,thrift stores and E-bay.They can all produce results.There is also the possiblity that updating your raliegh with some 07 parts might also lower the wieght to a more acceptable poundage.
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This thread has been really helpful to me - I need a bike for everyday commuting (on and off trains and buses for some legs) and want to upgrade to a hybrid or road bike with a lighter frame than the 2-ton Raleigh I currently use. Unfortunately I am forced to lock my bike outdoors while at work (albeit in a safe area), so I am not willing to do that with a >$500 purchase. Also, it has been difficult finding an inexpensive used road bike for my height (why are craigslist sellers always so TALL?!?). So I am now planning to order the Dawes.

Can anyone comment on sizing for the Dawes Lightning Sport? Chicabike would suggest a SM for my height (5'5"). I tested a SM mens Diamondback Century at my LBS (I think it was listed as a 44 cm) and it felt a little too small but not overly so. Sizing (in cm) seems to be a little strange on these flatbar road bikes. Any advice on whether to order the SM or M Dawes product on Ebay? My inseam is 29-30". Also, what is going on with those "short length" bikes? At my LBS in place of a M Century I tried a different M-sized frame, which seemed to suit me better except that my feet hit the wheels when I turned?! I don't plan to bike to work in clip-toe shoes - is this something I should watch out for?

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I bought a sport based on my size and I found that it fits me... but I did have to play with stem height because I like the handlebars about the same height as my seat. you can also modify a "close enough" bike to fit by using another stem... don't know what you can do about your feet hitting the wheels when you turn because I don't have that problem....

I don't know about upgrading your raleigh because getting newer components tends to become expensive pretty fast... but if you decided to go that route I would look for parts from ebay...
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I bought a sport based on my size and I found that it fits me... but I did have to play with stem height because I like the handlebars about the same height as my seat. you can also modify a "close enough" bike to fit by using another stem... don't know what you can do about your feet hitting the wheels when you turn because I don't have that problem....

I don't know about upgrading your raleigh because getting newer components tends to become expensive pretty fast... but if you decided to go that route I would look for parts from ebay...

sorry I forgot to put a link that I think will help you...
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Your feet will hit the wheel on a racing bike with it's short wheelbase. If you are just going to use it for commuting or pleasure riding, you don't need the racing geometry. See about getting a comfort bike or a "sport-touring" bike. Both of these will give you clearance between your foot and the front wheel. OR, you can just stop peddling every time you need to turn the front wheel past your foot. Since most turning at all but the lowest speeds is done by leaning into the turn rather than turning the handlebars, the foot clearance usually is not an issue.
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Hi guys,

Let me give you a little bit of my cycling background: I know nothing about bikes! Based on the current situation that affects the university parking lot (crowded all the time) I decided to get a cheap bike at Wally. After some research I got a Schwinn Varsity. So far (I have ridden a little over 100 miles on it) I think the bike is OK to me (maybe a little too big) and I am wondering if a carbon fork and a carbon seat post would make it NOTORIOUSLY more comfortable. If you could give me advice it will be very welcomed!


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Let me give you a little bit of my cycling background: I know nothing about bikes! Based on the current situation that affects the university parking lot (crowded all the time) I decided to get a cheap bike at Wally. After some research I got a Schwinn Varsity. So far (I have ridden a little over 100 miles on it) I think the bike is OK to me (maybe a little too big) and I am wondering if a carbon fork and a carbon seat post would make it NOTORIOUSLY more comfortable. If you could give me advice it will be very welcomed!


Thanks


Hope you didn't pay full price. The way I have been hearing on the net varsities have been going out the walmart door at about $100 just to get the dust out.Sorry if you paid full price.My suggestion would be to see if your local walmart has one of those GMC denali pro's left.They are what you are wanting to upgrade to kinda and walmarts are knocking the price down to $250from $329 to get rid of them.
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10 speed,

Thanks for your reply. I paid 150 for my varsity (it is not the best price ever heard but at least it is less than the original 200).

By the way, I tried the GMC Denaly pro but I returned to the store 6 hours later because it was heavier and slower than my varsity. On top of that the cassette seemed to not turn true on its axis (it oscillated way too much). The shifters were nice (after adjustments) especially for the comfortable brake levers but they were by far noisier than the cheap ones that I got .
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10 speed,

Thanks for your reply. I paid 150 for my varsity (it is not the best price ever heard but at least it is less than the original 200).

By the way, I tried the GMC Denaly pro but I returned to the store 6 hours later because it was heavier and slower than my varsity. On top of that the cassette seemed to not turn true on its axis (it oscillated way too much). The shifters were nice (after adjustments) especially for the comfortable brake levers but they were by far noisier than the cheap ones that I got .
thanks gatucar. You just saved me from a $250 mistake.I guess I'm just going to have to save a few more bucks and go for the trek.
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mwyatt1974[/color]]A little guidance here would be appreciated. I am completely new to the idea of cycling. I know a few people that are into it and they gave me the names and number to the local bike shops. Well I talked to them and they told me that I should be prepared to spend ~$700 to get started...and that was buying a used bike. Not to sound cheap but I can't see spending that kind of money when I really have no idea if it is something I will want to do. My ultimate question is this.....I saw this bike in my local Wal Mart yesterday and it seemed like it could be a decent way to tap into cycling to see if it was worth spending some real $$$ on. Could any of you suggest if this is a good idea or not.
My advice: REFUSE to pay more than $300.00 for any new bicycle. REFUSE to pay more than $50.00 for any use bicycle. REFUSE to pay more than $5000.00 for a new car or more than $1000.00 for a used car. That's in US dollars, circa AD 2007.

At times, I rather like feudal ideas about value far more than I like the modern "a thing is worth what someone is willing and able to pay for it" concept. The latter idea is a recipe for eternal inflation. I probably will explain this poorly, but the feudal economy was built around the idea of stability and utility: a thing was worth what it was intended for, and for whom it was intended. One would never make a cart (or a bicycle) of gold or precious metal because the item could never be worth more than a similar item made of base metal. This tended to ensure that the price of common means of transportation and of common tools of trade remained within the reach of common people.

The practice of inflating prices based upon the ability of more-affluent consumers to pay was seen as price-gouging (there's a different term for it but I'm not finding the synonym at present), and it was subject to both civil and ecclesiastical penalties. The policy created stable, conservative societies which changed dramatically only during periods of extreme duress--periods of total war, disease, or famine.

A few folks may remember the story, included in many literature or social-studies textbooks in about the 5th or 6th grade. The story was meant to demean conservatism, but I took away a rather different lesson. As I recollect, the story is told of an ancient, good-and-wise Chinese emperor who had built a very peaceful and prosperous kingdom, but made many enemies in the surrounding kingdoms. His enemies formed an alliance against him, and their combined forces were approximately equal to his own; the victory could easily go to either side. In the weeks prior to the great battle, the emperor was secretly approached by one of his subjects, a prodigy who had created several weapons which might give the emperor the decisive edge. One was a crude sort of blunderbuss, a sort of rifle. Another was a sort of cannon. Most importantly, the prodigy had devised some sort of flying machine (I don't recollect if this was a hot-air balloon or a glider), to which he had attached a platform from which his other weapons could be utilised.

The emperor immediately recognised that these weapons would indeed give him a great advantage over his enemies. But he also recognised that these new weapons would totally disrupt the traditional methods of waging war, and would ultimately change society itself if such weapons proliferated. The Emperor excused himself and, without explaining why, sent the royal executioner in to dispatch the prodigy of his head. All of the prodigy's inventions were destroyed without anyone being told what they were. In the battle that ensued, the Emperor's army lost and he himself was mortally wounded; his dying words were something like "Though I have lost my empire, I have preserved it".

We were supposed to be appalled, as I recollect, that a "good and wise" king would esteem his traditions so highly that he would refuse to change his ways of conducting war. But what if the "good and wise king" were actually a bad and exploitative one? What if his enemies had been the real 'good guys'? After all--at the risk of invoking Godwin's Law--the most well-known proponent of traditional values in our time was also the leader who embraced new technology most enthusiastically. And the one who most of us most fervently disdain and despise: Adolf Hitler.

Sorry for the rant. I get frustrated at the bike snobbery that insists that a 'good bike' cannot be found for less than $700.00, largely because I just don't think that most people who buy bikes will ever perceive the least amount of difference between a $200.00 Schwinn from Wal-Mart and a $7000.00 bike from a local bike shop.

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