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SOCA - Serious Organised Crime Agency

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Old 06-04.-2006, 09:39 AM   #31
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A new FBI-style police squad will shift the balance of power away from criminals to victims, the Prime Minister will announce today. The Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca) will focus on drug gangs, human trafficking, major fraud and counterfeiting with a 4,000-plus staff, including former spies. It is officially launched today but has been operating as a "shadow" unit for the past 12 months.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/03042006/1...er-victims.html


Is this is good move by Blair or will this undermine the role of the Police? or will it give Police more time to spend tackling crime in the community?

I seriously thought MI5 through 6 were the British equivalent to the FBI ?
SOCA will have an easier go a lopping large amounts of capitol out of the caufers than will local police departments. The smaller offices of the local police will not have too much of a problem with SOCA but Scotland Yard, Pfff, that's going to be crazy, jurisdiction fights, internal affairs issues, what works for SOCA doesn't for the Yard , scandal and corruption.... Wait, the scandal and corruption already exist, never mind. Who knows maybe the two factions will keep each other in check.

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MI5-6 is national and international government intellegence department. We dont technically have a non-police based crime squad. Until now.



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I seriously thought MI5 through 6 were the British equivalent to the FBI ?
SOCA will have an easier go a lopping large amounts of capitol out of the caufers than will local police departments. The smaller offices of the local police will not have too much of a problem with SOCA but Scotland Yard, Pfff, that's going to be crazy, jurisdiction fights, internal affairs issues, what works for SOCA doesn't for the Yard , scandal and corruption.... Wait, the scandal and corruption already exist, never mind. Who knows maybe the two factions will keep each other in check.

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we will have to see what the results are...anything that tackles serious crime in this country is a good thing, i dont mind paying for it as long as we get results.



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Your thread should be back on line now, Pro.

You asked the question is SOCA a good move by Blair?
Hard one to call.

Crime is more prevalent, I suppose but I'm not sure that SOCA is the answer.
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Serious crime is an issue - look at the spate of armed robberies in England.
Look at the instances of "happy slapping" fatalities.
Consider the high profile murders such as the Lawrence case or Taylor case, Dando case.
I agree that something has to be done to reduce armed robbery, murder, rape.

But would SOCA prevent a Dunblane, for example ?

I ask the question as Devils Advocate because a lot of these politically inspired initiatives never tackle the actual problem/cause of serious crime.
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